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Old 09-15-2007, 02:36 PM
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Default Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

SB is 51.7/6.9/0.54 over only 29 hands. I havent seen him doing anything aggro.
MP2 is unknown+unimportant.
Hero has been extremly tight over couple of rounds of this session.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero ??

Whats heros line here? If SB is saying that he can beat top pair, best hero can hope for is split pot (excluding SB holding AA/KK and playing it "tricky").
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

First thought is I cap the flop and call down if he bets into me on the turn.
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

call down.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

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call down.

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You don't think it's possible villian is getting frisky in a steal situation?
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

that's why it's a call down.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

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call down.

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You don't think it's possible villian is getting frisky in a steal situation?

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unraised pot? I think our hand is as good as Top Pair here. The board is moderately coordinated, so we are not usually up against a draw.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:37 PM
ReidDeCardes ReidDeCardes is offline
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Default Re: Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

* Grunch *

I'm guessing he has Qx or a medium pair. If he had QJ I would think he would cr but he came out betting so I think he is protecting top pair or a medium pocket pair.

I call the flop. If turn is a blank then I raise or bet, if it is a Q I cc. If he cr turn and it is not a J or 2 then fold.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

I would cap, then call down if bet into on the turn... unless you improve of course.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

is call down a joke here? are you assuming he bets out. Why is that a good assumption?

You at least make sure there is one bet every street here.

This maybe a go without saying scenario but I assume you are saying call down on every street?
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Bottom 2pair in BB vs SB

I'd be wanting to put another raise in if safe cards fall, especially since these types often slowplay their big hands. I don't like doing it on the flop, though.
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