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#1
11-07-2007, 08:39 PM
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Middle pair+gs (shorthanded)
.5/1 4-handed
UTG is 84/24, often quite nutty postflop as well. He tends to massively overplay hands. SB is 36.92/6.5/1.68, likes to lead and donk flops but his raises usually represent quite a strong hand. Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.50/$1 4 players Converter Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero ? 
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#3
11-07-2007, 08:45 PM
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Re: Middle pair+gs (shorthanded)
Pot is small so I don't see any reason to raise it up. Just call along and see what happens.
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#4
11-07-2007, 08:48 PM
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Re: Middle pair+gs (shorthanded)
If we call and UTG calls, is everyone raising a safe turn?
What turn cards are we folding rather than raising?
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#5
11-07-2007, 08:50 PM
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Re: Middle pair+gs (shorthanded)
call works for me here
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#6
11-07-2007, 09:01 PM
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Re: Middle pair+gs (shorthanded)
[ QUOTE ]
If we call and UTG calls, is everyone raising a safe turn? What turn cards are we folding rather than raising? [/ QUOTE ] An ugly card like 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I would fold. I don't know about raising. I think it's an interesting spot. On one hand we are offering 5:1 to CO if we just call. On he other hand if we are re-raised we should fold (?), but that gives up a lot of potential outs. On balance I think I would raise though since SB is a big dog to have a 3-betting hand.
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#7
11-07-2007, 09:40 PM
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Re: Middle pair+gs (shorthanded)
Consensus seems to be call, and even while I was posting this hand, I wondered why I didn't. I raised.
Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, SB calls. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 3 players) SB checks, Hero ? Not crazy about that turn card given UTG's cold-call, but he is really loose.
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#8
11-07-2007, 09:42 PM
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Re: Middle pair+gs (shorthanded)
Bet folds. 1. You are not giving a free card to a lone club. 2. You don't really have many/decent outs (whereas if you had many/decent outs, being raised would be much worse)
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#9
11-07-2007, 09:54 PM
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Re: Middle pair+gs (shorthanded)
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Consensus seems to be call, and even while I was posting this hand, I wondered why I didn't. I raised. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, SB calls. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 3 players) SB checks, Hero ? Not crazy about that turn card given UTG's cold-call, but he is really loose. [/ QUOTE ] Decide whether UTG is able to semibluff raise a lone high club here and bet.
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#10
11-07-2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: Middle pair+gs (shorthanded)
So you would call down if you think UTG would semi bluff? What about SB slowplaying his made flush? Dunno, if raised it looks like a case of pretty decent RIO here.
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