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Old 05-21-2007, 02:16 PM
plan9 plan9 is offline
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Default 100NL TP2K: This is variance

Sorry for so many hands.

Guy is a buddy, 53/18/1.4 (200). Like 45% went to showdown. He's not afraid to raise the flop hard with monsters or make heroic calls.

Overplaying top pair. OOP. Please kill me.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $53.10
BB: $104.70
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $98.50</font>
MP: $116.80
CO: $93.20
BTN: $153.65

CO posts $1.00
<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
Hero raises to $5.00, MP calls $5.00, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $4.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($16.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13.00, MP calls $13.00, BB calls $13.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($55.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35.00, MP calls $35.00, BB folds

<font color="black">River:</font> ($125.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $45.50, MP calls $45.50
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Old 05-21-2007, 02:19 PM
lotus guardian lotus guardian is offline
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Default Re: 100NL TP2K: This is variance

No brainer.
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Old 05-21-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TP2K: This is variance

This looks fine. Busted spade draw I'm assuming.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TP2K: This is variance

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This looks fine. Busted spade draw I'm assuming.

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65o for the awesome. Sigh.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TP2K: This is variance

BBV IS THAT-A-WAY SIR

He lost Sklansky $$ in this hand; therefore, you win! Just cash in those $$ at the Sklansky Bank.
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TP2K: This is variance

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BBV IS THAT-A-WAY SIR

He lost Sklansky $$ in this hand; therefore, you win! Just cash in those $$ at the Sklansky Bank.

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Those are all I have.

But is bet/bet/bet the way to go or...?
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:33 PM
Wak3UpTheK1ng Wak3UpTheK1ng is offline
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Default Re: 100NL TP2K: This is variance

c/c turn, c/c river. I'd rather be the one calling him than betting here. Reason: On the River you're only getting a call from a weaker ace? He makes some heroic calls but so what. On the turn, you're liable to get raised by a combo draw or he donk tripped his 8. If you're firing the turn expecting to get raised I would just shove the turn. I don't know by betting the turn, you really got committed to this pot with 1 pair (well 2 pair) 2nd kicker, and I hate stacking off with a pair.

I say c/c turn for 2 reasons, he is betting a worse hand for you, vs he might fold to your bet. Or he has you crushed and you're stacking off.
C/C river because when you let him see your draw on the turn, you give him a chance to fire when he misses majority of the time. He turns OESD in this case, 18% I don't mind letting him peel @ all when I'm sure he will fire when he misses 100% of the time.
So you C/C turn and river to induce the bluff from a worse hand, and avoid getting stacked with one pair. I think thats &gt;&gt;&gt; +EV than attempting to protect top pair when we know he is a donkey anyway
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TP2K: This is variance

WTK:

Thanks for your reply.

From the guys stats/reads, he's not that aggressive with draws so c/f turn is probably preferable to c/c. Also, I think you may have misread the hand: The turn didn't pair the board. So, yeah, I have one pair and he could have hit a set on the turn but he'd probably shove it, probably shove 78 too.

I think c/c river is way better here, though. His hand is probably a draw but it might be a bluff catching pair. I bet to maximise against his bluff catchers but I believe now his range is weighted towards draws so prefer a c/c.

I was going to say I need to bet more on the turn but he's getting 3.8-1 implied odds and he has 15 'outs' (6.67-1) since I'll c/f a spade but puking and calling a diamond.
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TP2K: This is variance

listen, if hes your buddy and you are asking us how to play against him...why is he your buddy!!?!??! Hell yes this is fine here.
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