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Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
Forbes 400
Top 10 this year? 5 hi-tech (Gates - MSFT, Brin/Page - Google, Ellison, Dell) 2 oil (Kochs) 2 casinos (Adelson/Kerkorian) 1 Buffett! It's probably a little disingenuous to classify KK as casinos, since that's really just part of his investment/buyout portfolio, but it's a big part of his roots, focus, and empire. Rounding out the top 20 are a couple more Microsoft guys, the Waltons (Wal-Mart), and a couple of finance players (Icahn, Fidelity). And the Mars bar family! |
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Re: Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
imo the kochs are tech too. Just wealth left from refining technology.
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Re: Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
People must eat a lotta M and Ms.
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Re: Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
most of the new guys are PE/hedge fund people. Not sure if thats gonna be a long term thing or era specific.
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Re: Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
ah,
Interesting to look at how much personal wealth gets created by finance guys vs. tech guys. I too am not sure how that goes longer term. |
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Re: Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
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ah, Interesting to look at how much personal wealth gets created by finance guys vs. tech guys. I too am not sure how that goes longer term. [/ QUOTE ] Good HF managers are not going to be poor anytime soon. PE is more dependent on public markets being receptive to IPOs and easy credit, a good long-short mgr can obviously do well for years in a bear market. Tougher for PE/VC to achieve that. |
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Re: Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
Hm - I could be off, but pretty sure they don't have a good methodology for understanding PE / VC net worth. Especially with the privately held portion of their portfolios. Numbers feel understated and alot of VCs (e.g. Khosla, who I've read was worth $2B couple years ago, which feels low to me) I'm surprised didn't make the list.
-Al |
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Re: Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
No to derail but can regular people make $$ of investing in casinos? I am not a finance minded person, but when I think about it quickly it seems like a slam dunk: casinos make money, I want to make money, maybe I can invest in a casino. Gotta be missing something big here or else everyone would be doing it, ldo.
KJS |
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Re: Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
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[ QUOTE ] ah, Interesting to look at how much personal wealth gets created by finance guys vs. tech guys. I too am not sure how that goes longer term. [/ QUOTE ] Good HF managers are not going to be poor anytime soon. PE is more dependent on public markets being receptive to IPOs and easy credit, a good long-short mgr can obviously do well for years in a bear market. Tougher for PE/VC to achieve that. [/ QUOTE ] yes but will they always be able to command such huge compensation? |
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Re: Where\'s the money? Tech, gambling, and oil
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No to derail but can regular people make $$ of investing in casinos? I am not a finance minded person, but when I think about it quickly it seems like a slam dunk: casinos make money, I want to make money, maybe I can invest in a casino. Gotta be missing something big here or else everyone would be doing it, ldo. [/ QUOTE ] Expectations are already built into the price of the stock. |
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