UB$25k Bounty: TPTK Facing Turn CR

[the alex]

Villian was limping a lot and seemed weak after the flop. Otherwise, I don't know him because I only play cash on UB.

How bad is my flop check? And is this turn more elementary than I'm making it out to be? Are these questions a clear reason to just fold preflop? LOL.


Hand #45687365-108 at Thu801pm25KBounty-002 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 23/Aug/07 21:38:33

scarface_79 is at seat 0 with 4680.
thechad78 is at seat 1 with 2850.
dbl_gutted is at seat 2 with 3740.
dochollywud02 is at seat 3 with 5490.
sandler1860 is at seat 4 with 4150.
daveypeah is at seat 5 with 2020.
C91186 is at seat 6 with 6450.
Scrooge Mcduc is at seat 7 with 5920.
Eightend is at seat 8 with 6280.
Ellen00001 is at seat 9 with 2620.
The button is at seat 2.

dochollywud02 posts the small blind of 50.
sandler1860 posts the big blind of 100.

scarface_79: -- --
thechad78: -- --
dbl_gutted: As Js
dochollywud02: -- --
sandler1860: -- --
daveypeah: -- --
C91186: -- --
Scrooge Mcduc: -- --
Eightend: -- --
Ellen00001: -- --

Pre-flop:

daveypeah folds. C91186 raises to 300. Scrooge
Mcduc folds. Eightend folds. Ellen00001 folds.
scarface_79 folds. thechad78 folds. dbl_gutted
calls. dochollywud02 folds. sandler1860 folds.

Flop (board: 8h 3h Jd):

C91186 checks. dbl_gutted checks.

Turn (board: 8h 3h Jd 6s):

C91186 checks. dbl_gutted bets 400. C91186 raises
to 1950. dbl_gutted_________________ ???

[Exitonly]

you've played it pretty trickily, i just get it in now. I likely just bet the flop though, and call a c/r shove. (also maybe fold pf)

[nath]

i think everyone who takes the line villain did is absolutely full of [censored] all the time

this is probably true here as well

[Mench]

def get it in. agree with nath. he shows up with some garbage airy hand or a draw. No one checks an overpair twice here.

[Superfluous Man]

Anyone ever call here planning to call his river bluffshove? I agree that this line is air a ton of the time, but if it's air, why not let him bluff the river too?

I mean, unless you think he'll call your turn shove with a worse J (he doesn't have one here prob) or with 75/97/T9...

[WarDekar]

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Anyone ever call here planning to call his river bluffshove? I agree that this line is air a ton of the time, but if it's air, why not let him bluff the river too?

I mean, unless you think he'll call your turn shove with a worse J (he doesn't have one here prob) or with 75/97/T9...

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Only problem with this is he MAY have a drawing hand that will call you here and not pay off river.