Very Basic Hand

waynethetrain · #1 03-17-2006, 01:25 PM

Sorry for posting such a basic hand, but I need to double check my thinking.

When the A came out on the turn, I had to bet even though it was probably around 50% that 1 of the 2 players had an A. If I checked and got bet into, I still wouldn't know if I was up against an A. So I'd have have to call. I might as well bet an perhaps KO something that can beat me when I am ahead. Correct?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 folds.

River: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

tehox · #2 03-17-2006, 01:29 PM

nice hand. It kind of sucks when donks peel with an ace in this spot, but what are you going to do.

OXIO · #3 03-17-2006, 01:29 PM

Grunch:
I think i would have raised this one preflop.
Other than that, i think you played it fine.

bozlax · #4 03-17-2006, 01:37 PM

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I think i would have raised this one preflop.

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From the SB with 4 limpers raising offsuit broadways other than AK is not a great plan...it bloats that pot more than giving you value.

Edit: to elaborate, if you had raised then a limped A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] would have had the odds to peel on the flop. Without the raise, that hand should fold this flop, or give up Sklansky bucks to you by peeling.

OXIO · #5 03-17-2006, 01:46 PM

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From the SB with 4 limpers raising offsuit broadways other than AK is not a great plan...it bloats that pot more than giving you value.

Edit: to elaborate, if you had raised then a limped A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] would have had the odds to peel on the flop. Without the raise, that hand should fold this flop, or give up Sklansky bucks to you by peeling.

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Thank you, i see your point.

Shalara · #6 03-17-2006, 01:51 PM

I'd have to guess he's sitting on a Q and is unsure of his kicker. Ax is possible too, but I think a river bet is a good one here, assuming he will call with Qx or any pair, as well as an ace, as he'll have Qx or a lower pair more often than he will the ace.

bozlax · #7 03-17-2006, 01:52 PM

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nice hand. It kind of sucks when donks peel with an ace in this spot, but what are you going to do.

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I usually laugh and thank them for not taking more of my money. That's how I roll, tho.

string4 · #8 03-17-2006, 02:06 PM

*grunchin'*

First, I would definitely raise this preflop - you're going to win a healthy share of pots with KQ and the value is worth the raise. Without any reads, I would play all streets the same, would never consider checking the turn.

Edit: Great point boz about bloating the pot through raising this preflop...I need to think that one through some more

TheGrinch · #9 03-17-2006, 02:10 PM

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I think i would have raised this one preflop.

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From the SB with 4 limpers raising offsuit broadways other than AK is not a great plan...it bloats that pot more than giving you value.

Edit: to elaborate, if you had raised then a limped A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] would have had the odds to peel on the flop. Without the raise, that hand should fold this flop, or give up Sklansky bucks to you by peeling.

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I disagree. I think the mistake of not raising preflop with the broadway is a bigger mistake than any made on the flop. I'm refering to "Building Big Pots Before the Flop" in SSHE.

Time to get my drink on. Happy St. Patties everyone.

tehox · #10 03-17-2006, 02:11 PM

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nice hand. It kind of sucks when donks peel with an ace in this spot, but what are you going to do.

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I usually laugh and thank them for not taking more of my money. That's how I roll, tho.

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Maybe some day I'll be "the man" like you.