$220 Tilt Turbo: 88 in BB... Squeeeeze?

[fsoyars]

Do we like this? FWIW, BTN is DDBeast. SB is unknown.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t40/t80
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3040
UTG+1: t645
MP1: t1825
CO: t3475
Button: t1660
SB: t1625
Hero: t1230

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t200</font>, SB calls t160 <font color="#aaaaaa">(pot was t320)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1230</font>

[Velocity]

I like it. DDBeast's range for calling a shove is quite a bit smaller than his opening range should be, and 88 has good showdown value when called. SB rarely has a monster here and will fold a lot too, IMO.

[pokerman777]

good move

[Shillx]

Don't like it. Would you do this with QJs (a better hand)? Didn't think so.

e: You are playing this like a MTT. He plays a lot differently then I do but still his range isn't that big. 88 would be a 2:1 dog against my opening range in this spot.

[Velocity]

is 22+, A7s+, ATo+, KJs+, KQo, QJs a good estimation of DDBeasts opening range from the button?

is 99+, AJs+, AQ, AK too tight for a calling range?

[Shillx]

I honestly have no idea what his opening range is. It is tough to comment on the calling range b/c we don't know the history. I would fold QQ if DDBeast were the BB and I opened on the button. If I'm pushing from the BB I might expect him to call me with JJ/AKs or something like that. If there is no history then your range might be totally legit but it all hinges on that.

[darinvg]

I like the play.
Questions:
QJs &gt; 88?
Fold QQ to a resteal in BB vs OTB war?

[fsoyars]

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I honestly have no idea what his opening range is. It is tough to comment on the calling range b/c we don't know the history. I would fold QQ if DDBeast were the BB and I opened on the button. If I'm pushing from the BB I might expect him to call me with JJ/AKs or something like that. If there is no history then your range might be totally legit but it all hinges on that.

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I don't think there is much history, according to sharkscope we've only played 14 games together. He may recognize my name from having commented on hands I've posted here, if you think that affects his range. But otherwise, we probably haven't played together enough for him to be adjusting his range one way or the other based on history.

[Sparta45]

I like the shove. His calling range is much tighter than his opening range.

Also, I would never fold QQ to DDB's button raise....

[aSsAsSiN2007]

nh sir. imo you have the best hand here id have shoved it