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Old 11-05-2007, 12:32 AM
QuadLaser QuadLaser is offline
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Default 100NL: Nut Flush Draw in awkward spot OOP

Betting villain is donk, like 40/3/1. Raising villain is quite aggro, 25/20/4 and has been making alot of action for the table.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $72.55
MP: $50
CO: $23.15
BTN: $115.50
Hero (SB): $118.25
BB: $244.55

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $1, <font color="red">MP raises to $2</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $2, Hero calls $1.50, BB folds, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $6</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $16</font>, Hero??

Whats the best move here? A call exposes my hand pretty bad...
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:11 AM
jordiepop jordiepop is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut Flush Draw in awkward spot OOP

i feel like we our only looking at a fd here for outs. i would call this if it closed the action, but not sure how to react with the live player behind us. so i guess i didnt offer much help...
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:19 AM
Roger Mainfield Roger Mainfield is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut Flush Draw in awkward spot OOP

I don't think that UTG is really a factor here, he seems like a loose passive calling station. That being said you can't flat call. I fold, the button is probably not bluffing, cause it's a limped pot and there is no reason to bluff a donk.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:24 AM
QuadLaser QuadLaser is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut Flush Draw in awkward spot OOP

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I don't think that UTG is really a factor here, he seems like a loose passive calling station. That being said you can't flat call. I fold, the button is probably not bluffing, cause it's a limped pot and there is no reason to bluff a donk.

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I was thinking there was a &gt;90% chance UTG would call, thus padding the pot, if I called. He was a huge station.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut Flush Draw in awkward spot OOP

if you are pretty sure utg will call then you have good odds to see a turn even if your hand is face up.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut Flush Draw in awkward spot OOP

if you think UTG will call, then just call, otherwise....shove?
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut Flush Draw in awkward spot OOP

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if you are pretty sure utg will call then you have good odds to see a turn even if your hand is face up.

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Ok so that is my line of thinking, and I called, action continues...

Flop: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $6</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $16</font>, Hero calls $16, UTG folds

Turn: ($47) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ??

So UTG actually folded for only 10 more, either way, I hit the flush! but the board paired! What line does everyone take on this turn?
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:53 AM
pr0crast pr0crast is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Nut Flush Draw in awkward spot OOP

just fold.

1) you are out of position
2) utg might not call the raise, especially after you call it cold which looks scary
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