Good flop fold with QQ? 100 nl

gezuz · #1 06-16-2007, 10:09 PM

Villain is unknown, but this is the hand right before this one:

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CO ($91.35)
Button ($133.20)
Hero ($122.30)
BB ($98)
UTG ($213.65)
MP ($102.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $4, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, Button calls $4, Hero raises to $25.5, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $42.50

That hand was right before this one.

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MP ($87.35)
CO ($129.20)
Hero ($139.30)
SB ($100)
BB ($209.65)
UTG ($98.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $1, CO raises to $5, Hero raises to $15, 2 folds, MP folds, CO calls $10.

Flop: ($32.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $23, CO raises to $50, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $105.50

Meh I put him on a set without much thought, he's barely making a minraise. Look OK?

AsydRayne · #2 06-16-2007, 10:28 PM

Hmm, with the hand you posted right before, I think his range is much wider than set. Since you have position, I like call and reevaluate the turn.

orange · #3 06-16-2007, 10:30 PM

no

gezuz · #4 06-16-2007, 10:31 PM

I thought of it the exact opposite. My range of 3 betting is probably smaller the 2nd time, and I expect him to know this. Also c/ring in a preflop 3bet pot isn't a common bluff tactic I'd imagine.

nuggetz87 · #5 06-16-2007, 10:31 PM

fold is fine.

Panthro · #6 06-16-2007, 10:32 PM

pot is too big to call and reevel IMO. I call the flop and get the rest in on the turn without much thought. Shoving is fine too.

AsydRayne · #7 06-16-2007, 10:32 PM

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Are you saying no to Look OK? or no to my comment? Care to expound?

AsydRayne · #8 06-16-2007, 10:36 PM

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pot is too big to call and reevel IMO. I call the flop and get the rest in on the turn without much thought. Shoving is fine too.

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You call if an A or K comes on the turn and he shoves?

AsydRayne · #9 06-16-2007, 10:43 PM

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I thought of it the exact opposite. My range of 3 betting is probably smaller the 2nd time, and I expect him to know this. Also c/ring in a preflop 3bet pot isn't a common bluff tactic I'd imagine.

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It is if he thinks your 3-betting with a wide range. He may have a set here, but I think you see a ten or a lower pocket pair here pretty often. It kind of depends on the opponent, so it is kind of difficult without reads. If you prefer to fold and find a better spot, I suppose that isn't horrible, but I don't think this is always a set and you played it weak.

Panthro · #10 06-16-2007, 10:49 PM

my bad, I thought hero had AA for some reason. I'd just shove the flop w/ QQ.

And when you 3-bet 2 hands in a row, unknowns always think you're FOS.