200NL - value bet JJ on this river?

ir0nphist · #1 09-25-2007, 11:11 AM

Villain is 22/16/4
I normally reraise this PF, but this time I wanted to try keeping the pot smaller oop.

So what's the best plan for river here? c/c or b/f or b/c?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($197.25)
UTG ($200)
MP ($188)
CO ($248.15)
Button ($250.50)
SB ($229.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($15) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $25, CO calls $25.

River: ($85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ?

AaronOC · #2 09-25-2007, 11:21 AM

bet 55

martijn · #3 09-25-2007, 11:29 AM

yup 55 looks good.

btw isnt checking turn vs a aggresive player like this good to induce another bet?Alot of people rightfully double barrel on boards like these.

RivFader · #4 09-25-2007, 04:21 PM

Definitely 3-bet JJ preflop, because it's [censored] to play when villain has shown aggression and flops usually have an overcard or two. With AA or KK smooth calling would be OK.

EWS87 · #5 09-25-2007, 04:29 PM

i dont like a 3bet preflop...i probably would c/c turn...then make what looks like a blocking bet on river and call if he raises

HoldEmNewby · #6 09-25-2007, 04:38 PM

bet fold 57 on river. c/c gains us value when he bluffs with 33,Ax[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], but we lose value from hands like 77-TT which he may just check behind with.

RivFader · #7 09-25-2007, 04:41 PM

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i dont like a 3bet preflop...

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I really hope you are joking.

EWS87 · #8 09-25-2007, 04:49 PM

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i dont like a 3bet preflop...

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I really hope you are joking.

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no i dont 3bet out of the blinds...it keeps them guessing more when i just call...if he is just stealing...making him fold sucks when you can make more money getting cbets out of him

RivFader · #9 09-25-2007, 04:52 PM

You're a hilarious guy.

yoshi86 · #10 09-25-2007, 05:03 PM

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i dont like a 3bet preflop...

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I really hope you are joking.

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no i dont 3bet out of the blinds...it keeps them guessing more when i just call...if he is just stealing...making him fold sucks when you can make more money getting cbets out of him

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level?