Would you respect this bluff?

[T0ne D0wn]

I have opponent at 25.7/15.8/1.87 over 2k hands. He can tilt and play horrible sometimes. He respects my game, wont play me HU and I run at like 22/18. Hes not tilting right now, and he has never caught me making an excessive amount of bluffs, but he knows I am an agressive player.

No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed)

CO ($138.40)
Hero ($586.15)
SB ($402)
BB ($76)
UTG ($395.90)
MP ($465.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $14</font>, CO calls $14, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $62</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $48, CO folds.

Flop: ($144) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($144) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $99</font>, MP calls $99.

River: ($342) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $342</font>
-300 more to him

[wtf5]

the kind of problem with this is that u'd be betting AcKx, AxKc and any overpair with a club on the flop.

[aislephive]

This is bad because he obviously has a flush when he calls the turn (maybe a set rarely) and given how this hand went down he is going to be suspicious of your line and look you up with tons of various flushes.

[rebuyboy]

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This is bad because he obviously has a flush when he calls the turn (maybe a set rarely) and given how this hand went down he is going to be suspicious of your line and look you up with tons of various flushes.

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if he has half a brain shouldnt he realize that this is a terrible spot for hero to bluff so he should fold his mid-club?

also why would hero ALWAYS bet AK with a club on the flop?

[aislephive]

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This is bad because he obviously has a flush when he calls the turn (maybe a set rarely) and given how this hand went down he is going to be suspicious of your line and look you up with tons of various flushes.

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if he has half a brain shouldnt he realize that this is a terrible spot for hero to bluff so he should fold his mid-club?


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Not good logic to use, generally. Besides, people don't fold.

[d2themfi]

without a more significant history no I dont think this is a good bluff, because the "standard line" would be to bet an ace or king high flush draw on the flop esp in a 3 bet pot and he probably knows that. And without a history of really light call downs and/or valuebers I dont see how you can make this size bet for value with out a really good flush.

[ata]

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This is bad because he obviously has a flush when he calls the turn (maybe a set rarely) and given how this hand went down he is going to be suspicious of your line and look you up with tons of various flushes.

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if he has half a brain shouldnt he realize that this is a terrible spot for hero to bluff so he should fold his mid-club?


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95% of players aren't capable of thinking on this level.

[FionnMac]

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This is bad because he obviously has a flush when he calls the turn (maybe a set rarely) and given how this hand went down he is going to be suspicious of your line and look you up with tons of various flushes.

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if he has half a brain shouldnt he realize that this is a terrible spot for hero to bluff so he should fold his mid-club?


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95% of players aren't capable of thinking on this level.

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agreed, i have made the mistake of making this kind of ambitious logic recently too, you just can't make assumptions that they are thinking on that level.

[T0ne D0wn]

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the kind of problem with this is that u'd be betting AcKx, AxKc and any overpair with a club on the flop


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What my buddy said as well. I actually check behind with these hands more then I should. Opponent does not know that, so it might be bad. I thought the line was still credible with a high club that checked the flop and is going for value.

[Black winter day]

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the kind of problem with this is that u'd be betting AcKx, AxKc and any overpair with a club on the flop.

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Agreed, that's why i'd really like your line with any high club in your hand.
Ppl just hate folding flushes in my experience...