Stealing in Live Poker

[Kyle]

Later this month I plan on flying out to commerce site see in LA and play some poker.

I play on playing anywhere from 40/80 to 100/200 if the games are good. However since the rake is higher in live action how does this affect stealing ranges?

I pulled up an old Abdul PF article and said this

"A rake seriously reduces the number of hands with which you can steal, as you will be paying a lot for a crapshoot against the big blind. With a Draconian rake, like where the big blind gets dropped once the flop comes, you would need about JJ or better to open on the button! Even with a modest rake, JT and 76s should be folded."

Since he does not refer to the stakes being played. At 40/80 and above should I adjust my stealing range live as compared to online? If so by how much?

Also, on a side note where are some good places to eat and hang out around that area? I am a steak kinda guy so any reccomendations would be great.

[Jeffage]

If the big blind gets dropped in the 40 or 1-2 game, I'd say to go to another cardroom. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Jeff

[ike]

In games this big it should be a time charge, right?

[elena_elphie]

The rake is actually relatively lower in live poker, because you typically play higher stakes live compared to an equivlent online game. True, a 40/80 online game will have a lower rake than a 40/80 live game in BB/100. But the 40/80 live game will have a lower relative rake compared to a 15/30 online game which it is honestly probably softer than.

Commerce charges a $4 drop a hand. Assuming I win around 10 pots/100 in a nine handed game, since I play tighter than the table average, I pay $50 in rake + toke. $50/100 = 0.625BB/100 in rake, which definately compares favorably to what I've paid online playing much smaller games.

[elena_elphie]

Commerce takes a $4 rake at 40/80. Time is $11/half @ 60/120 and $12/half @ 100/200. People typically pot for time, though you can opt out.

[3rdCheckRaise]

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Commerce takes a $4 rake at 40/80. Time is $11/half @ 60/120 and $12/half @ 100/200. People typically pot for time, though you can opt out.

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Ouch thats pretty high...and i thought we overpaying time charge on east coast.

[sonartec]

LOL here in Sydney Australia the local casino is $1 per hand per player (must be paid before you recieve cards) and a small coke is about $3.55US.

[TylerD]

Wow.

[gobboboy]

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LOL here in Sydney Australia the local casino is $1 per hand per player (must be paid before you recieve cards) and a small coke is about $3.55US.

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Those better be drugs.

[Kyle]

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LOL here in Sydney Australia the local casino is $1 per hand per player (must be paid before you recieve cards) and a small coke is about $3.55US.

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The sad thing is people actually pay this price to play....