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Old 07-11-2007, 10:03 PM
StimpackAddict StimpackAddict is offline
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Default What is going on here? (statistics skills needed)

I want to start this post by apologizing for posting this here as opposed to the math forum, but it is for the reason that the math forum is dead, and replies would take too long, and I need verification within a few minutes. I am in no way shape or form asking someone to do my homework, I have already attempted the problem numerous times.
Here is the problem:

2% of hair dryers produced in a certain plant are defective. Estimate the probablility that of 10,000 randomly selected hair dryers, exactly 225 are defective.

Answers: A) 0.0034 B) 0.0057 C) 0.0065 D) 0.0051

Now in order to solve this, You need to find out what the Mean (MU) is, and what the Variance is (sigma)

Q (chance of defective/failure) is = to .02,

because 1-P = Q, and P = .98 (given)

Mean (Mu) = NxP = (225)(.98)= 220.5

Variance (sigma) = Sq rt. of( (n)(p)(q) ) = sq rt of( (10,000) (.98) (.02) ) = 14

Therfore, p=.98 q=.02 Mu=220.5 and Variance=14

Now you must find the Z scores for the sample size of 225, and because it asks for EXACTLY 225 that are defective, you must take .5 from the number for each Z equation.

Therfore:

Z(1) = Avg Mean - Mu / Variance = 224.5 - 220.5 / 14 = .29 (rounded)

Z(2) = Avg Mean - Mu / Variance = 225.5 - 220.5 / 14 = .36 (rounded)

On my Z Score chart, Z(1)'s score of .29 is = to .6141

and Z(2)'s score of .36 is = to .6406

because .29 < Z < .36 ,

you do this operation: .6406 - .6141

but the problem is, I get the answer .0265, which is no where close to the correct answer, which is .0057

I have triple checked my math, and tried it without rounding even, and I still can't get the answer. What the hell am I doing wrong? I even paralleled this problem to an example problem the teacher did in class.

Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: What is going on here? (statistics skills needed)

So i only skimmed your work and I havent slept in a long time but why did you do this...

Mean (Mu) = NxP = (225)(.98)= 220.5

shouldnt the mean of the distribution be .02*10k, which would give the avg number of deffective dryers, then if you run your Z test you can find how many stdevs 225 is from that mean and find the probability of that off a chart?
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: What is going on here? (statistics skills needed)

OP: it was obviously pirates
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: What is going on here? (statistics skills needed)

pookvis, I just realized this also when I read an actual response in the math forum. The problem is that I labeled both the 225 defective sample size, and the 10000 total BOTH as N, and then multiplied the wrong one.. is this my mistake?
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: What is going on here? (statistics skills needed)

yes, N=10k.

Also i think you have your P and Q mixed up, it doesnt really matter what you call it but you want the mean number defective if you are going to use 225. You could also use 10k-225 and start talking about it the way you have it set up its just less intuitive (also your N is still wrong no matter what).
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: What is going on here? (statistics skills needed)

I have made the changes... it made it worse pookvis, because now the 2 Z scores are WAYYY off the chart. this cant be right. i cant even get the values to subtract them
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: What is going on here? (statistics skills needed)

im gonna PM you the rest of this to spare OOT
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: What is going on here? (statistics skills needed)

lol math you poor bastards
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:25 PM
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OP: I don't want to discount what pookvis is saying, but you ought to at least look into the possibility that it was pirates.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: What is going on here? (statistics skills needed)

I'm not sure where you're getting the variance based on the information given here. I think you've got the right idea about everything except for finding sigma.
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