Is Rondo the best defensive PG in the league?

EPiPeN11 · #1 08-01-2007, 03:14 PM

Just wondering what everyone thinks about this. I'm a Celtic fan and watched every Celtics game last year, and he is a great defender.

PG is also the weakest defensive position in the NBA so I think Rondo really is the best defender. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Deron Williams, but I think Rondo is an overall better defender than Williams, but it's close.

Anyone else think Rondo is the best defensive PG in the league, and if you don't, which PG(s) do you feel are better defensivley?

Clarkmeister · #2 08-01-2007, 03:22 PM

C'mon now.

barryc83 · #3 08-01-2007, 09:46 PM

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sip the bill simmons koolaid much? i like the guy honestly, but you Bostonians take everything he says as fact and its kinda ridiculous.

kidcolin · #4 08-01-2007, 09:56 PM

not really barry, but OK. I think the vast majority of boston sports posters on here don't base arguments off of Simmons work. We might be biased, but we're not retarded.

barryc83 · #5 08-01-2007, 10:59 PM

I like Simmons for the most part, but even you have to admit that this post reeks of some Bill Simmons bias. I'm an SEC guy (see avatar) and I saw numerous Kentucky games with Rondo so even though I didn't see him last year, I have seen him play a decent bit.

Your link rates RR #1 with a 96 rating. Some other guys are Devin Harris 91, Billups 48, Davis 94, Rafer Alston 92, Kidd 80, and TJ Ford 76. Billups @ 48 is atrocious, hey maybe he's fallen off some, but 48?!?! As someone who lives in Houston and watched the Rockets all of last year, putting Alston at 92 is laughable. This guy was getting killed on a nightly basis last season. Even if you don't watch the Rockets, you still probably saw the playoff series where Deron just abused him. Kidd at 80 is also low I would say, especially if RR is a 96. Also, the fact that Kidd is 80 and TJ is 76 is laughable again. TJ Ford is a terrible defender, he's undersized, injury prone and can't guard anyone in the league except for maybe Ridnour lol.

Also, since when do we start calling roll players best at anything? RR has played one season, only started a quarter of the games and averaged 23.5 mpg last year. Let him play a little bit and then I think it'll be fair to decide whether he's the "best" or not.

On a side note, I didn't mean to come off anti-Boston or anything. I've never even been there before. I do however hate your baseball team with a passion [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. This post just smelled Simmonsesque IMO because I know he's a homer like all of us and a RR fanboy.

Clarkmeister · #6 08-01-2007, 11:59 PM

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I like Simmons for the most part, but even you have to admit that this post reeks of some Bill Simmons bias. I'm an SEC guy (see avatar) and I saw numerous Kentucky games with Rondo so even though I didn't see him last year, I have seen him play a decent bit.

Your link rates RR #1 with a 96 rating. Some other guys are Devin Harris 91, Billups 48, Davis 94, Rafer Alston 92, Kidd 80, and TJ Ford 76. Billups @ 48 is atrocious, hey maybe he's fallen off some, but 48?!?! As someone who lives in Houston and watched the Rockets all of last year, putting Alston at 92 is laughable. This guy was getting killed on a nightly basis last season. Even if you don't watch the Rockets, you still probably saw the playoff series where Deron just abused him. Kidd at 80 is also low I would say, especially if RR is a 96. Also, the fact that Kidd is 80 and TJ is 76 is laughable again. TJ Ford is a terrible defender, he's undersized, injury prone and can't guard anyone in the league except for maybe Ridnour lol.

Also, since when do we start calling roll players best at anything? RR has played one season, only started a quarter of the games and averaged 23.5 mpg last year. Let him play a little bit and then I think it'll be fair to decide whether he's the "best" or not.

On a side note, I didn't mean to come off anti-Boston or anything. I've never even been there before. I do however hate your baseball team with a passion [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. This post just smelled Simmonsesque IMO because I know he's a homer like all of us and a RR fanboy.

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Easy there. Failure to ejaculate over Rondo is a bannable offense around these parts.

Vyse · #7 08-02-2007, 01:00 AM

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I like Simmons for the most part, but even you have to admit that this post reeks of some Bill Simmons bias. I'm an SEC guy (see avatar) and I saw numerous Kentucky games with Rondo so even though I didn't see him last year, I have seen him play a decent bit.

Your link rates RR #1 with a 96 rating. Some other guys are Devin Harris 91, Billups 48, Davis 94, Rafer Alston 92, Kidd 80, and TJ Ford 76. Billups @ 48 is atrocious, hey maybe he's fallen off some, but 48?!?! As someone who lives in Houston and watched the Rockets all of last year, putting Alston at 92 is laughable. This guy was getting killed on a nightly basis last season. Even if you don't watch the Rockets, you still probably saw the playoff series where Deron just abused him. Kidd at 80 is also low I would say, especially if RR is a 96. Also, the fact that Kidd is 80 and TJ is 76 is laughable again. TJ Ford is a terrible defender, he's undersized, injury prone and can't guard anyone in the league except for maybe Ridnour lol.

Also, since when do we start calling roll players best at anything? RR has played one season, only started a quarter of the games and averaged 23.5 mpg last year. Let him play a little bit and then I think it'll be fair to decide whether he's the "best" or not.

On a side note, I didn't mean to come off anti-Boston or anything. I've never even been there before. I do however hate your baseball team with a passion [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. This post just smelled Simmonsesque IMO because I know he's a homer like all of us and a RR fanboy.

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QFT since this didn't end the thread the first time

34TheTruth34 · #8 10-08-2007, 01:13 PM

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C'mon now.

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ban

scbrian · #9 08-01-2007, 03:22 PM

i think he will be...but is not yet...he has all the tools.

guys like jkidd / billups - while not as physically able anymore have a ton of experience on Rondo...experience guarding the point is very important...but rondo will definitely get there...if not this year, then probably next. never underestimate the brilliant tutelage of doc rivers hah

EPiPeN11 · #10 08-01-2007, 03:58 PM

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i think he will be...but is not yet...he has all the tools.

guys like jkidd / billups - while not as physically able anymore have a ton of experience on Rondo...experience guarding the point is very important...but rondo will definitely get there...if not this year, then probably next. never underestimate the brilliant tutelage of doc rivers hah

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While I do agree Kidd/Billups are very good defenders, I think they have both lost a lot athletically (especially Kidd). I would have to rank Rondo over both of them at this point in their career's, as quicker guards give Kidd/Billups a good amount of trouble.