huh, that's weird, turn c/r river check by villain

HOWMANY · #1 06-07-2007, 04:59 PM

Villain is pretty tight. Him having an A here makes no sense. I was obviously going to vb river if he c/c turn and check river. I was obviously going to calldown after this turn c/r. Do I have a value bet or a check here? I'm quite perplexed by his line.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, SB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero?

Scary_Tiger · #2 06-07-2007, 05:01 PM

Don't see any point in not checking.

Nate tha\\\' Great · #3 06-07-2007, 05:02 PM

His hand looks a lot like T9 or TJ, I think you can make a sick little value bet here.

jstill · #4 06-07-2007, 05:03 PM

just ck, he folds 9x and total air or u lose to a weak Ax or chop with Tx T9 JT or get cr'd by a boat or straight. this isnt like 8x or 55 that looks u up often enuff to make it >50%.

is A2 definitely a bet here?

HOWMANY · #5 06-07-2007, 05:03 PM

What if we had JJ+? At least that way we don't chop with a T.

*edit*
I think any A is a way easy bet because him having AJ+ here requires him to be really bad.

jstill · #6 06-07-2007, 05:06 PM

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His hand looks a lot like T9 or TJ, I think you can make a sick little value bet here.

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u do realize we chop w/ those now? do u think he folds them often enough if he played it this way that a bet becomes +EV w/ the possibility he played some worse hand htis way ie 8x and will pay off vs all the times he check raises or played Ax really weird?

Nate tha\\\' Great · #7 06-07-2007, 05:08 PM

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His hand looks a lot like T9 or TJ, I think you can make a sick little value bet here.

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u do realize we chop w/ those now? do u think he folds them often enough if he played it this way that a bet becomes +EV w/ the possibility he played some worse hand htis way ie 8x and will pay off vs all the times he check raises or played Ax really weird?

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lol I suck at reading hold 'em boards. Yeah, this is definitely a check I think.

danzasmack · #8 06-07-2007, 05:09 PM

Check. He check/folds a lot and check/calls an ace sometimes and check/raises other times.

sweetjazz · #9 06-07-2007, 07:09 PM

I guess there's a very small possibility he has 98 and makes an LOL call, but I think you're probably chopping (most likely against T8) and more likely to be losing than winning if called.

E-Z check-a-roo.