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Old 05-15-2007, 01:37 PM
Mingdu Mingdu is offline
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Default Hand Equity

Pokerstove shows how much equity a hand has after all cards are dealt

Is there a program or feature to pokerstove that will show me the value of a hand after only the flop, turn?

I have my two down cards ... against a range of hands how often after just the flop is my hand ahead? Not interested in what the turn and river do for me

Also for the turn
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:06 PM
A.Nironen A.Nironen is offline
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Default Re: Hand Equity

Do you have strict definitions of "flop equity" and "turn equity"? If you do and such definitions has a sense, the feature will be added to my calculator as soon as possible.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:30 PM
FeuDuSoir FeuDuSoir is offline
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Default Re: Hand Equity

There's an option in Pokerstove in the right-upper-corner named: board.
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: Hand Equity

My take is that OP isn't asking about overall equity but about how often a hand hits the flop/turn.

For example both 34s and 55 have approx 19% equity against AA. But 55 hits the flop a lot more (I suspect), so if you are calling a raise knowing someone is going to push the flop, 55 is better.

I'd be interested in seeing this for lot of different hands (and might write it myself if there isn't anything out there already). I'm not entirely sure what the right way to think about this is though. Perhaps what you really want to see is the odds you flop a hand with more than 30% equity / 40% equity / 50% equity, etc. against a range of hands.
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:10 PM
Phil153 Phil153 is offline
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Default Re: Hand Equity

You can use the holdem flopalyzer at propokertools.com

http://www.propokertools.com/simulat...tionEditor.jsp

Click the graph button and it'll show you the distributions of matchups on the flop. For example the 55 hand would have a spike at 90% - the times when it flops a set.
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Old 05-15-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Hand Equity

Thanks Phil - that's exactly what I was looking for.
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: Hand Equity

Not sure what the “strict” definitions would be

If I “know”, for example, that my opponent has AA … and have the option to call his bet my hand equity after all 5 cards doesn’t help me because I need to be ahead, if I call, post flop.

I also know that suited connectors play better after all 5 cards but are likely worse if just the flop is considered.

So even though my suited connectors have a better chance to win a showdown I can’t go that far. I need it after the flop. In this case I am more likely to play my PP …

I would like to be able to calculate how much of a bet is worth calling given my flop/turn and (already available) full board cards, among other things
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