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Old 04-18-2007, 02:36 PM
lifes3ps lifes3ps is offline
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Default gutterball+fd v good2cu

villians good2cu, i had such a small sample space i dont think stats are important.
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $548.30
<font color="black">BB: $165.50</font>
<u>UTG: $441.70</u>
CO: $515.85
<u>Hero (BTN): $406.40</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $14, SB folds, BB calls $10

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($44) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $33</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $105</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $427.70</font>, Hero calls all-in for $287.40
Uncalled bet of $35.30 returned to UTG

preflop: im normally in favor of the call w/ this hand v his utg range.

on the flop :i was torn btwn calling the one bet and reeval'ing the turn. but i opted to try and get a free card. then that exploded in my face. with his shove i was thinking probably AA/JJ/88/AJ, maybe AK, but that play wouldnt make too much since from him.

just making sure im commited here, maybe my math was off, i didnt like getting it in but i believe i was getting the odds.
it wouldnt have been that bad of a fold would it have? definately crossed my mind as a lower variance play.

would it have been better to play to see the turn? i didnt feel as if id get paid off well by calling on the fd.
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: gutterball+fd v good2cu

why is g2cu @ 2/4?
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: gutterball+fd v good2cu

was my reaction, and why i put him on a set/2pr w/ the shove
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: gutterball+fd v good2cu

I think this is fine, can't really fold to his push. The only real question is whether or not to raise flop, which I think is close. I probably still raise, since his range is so wide here.
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: gutterball+fd v good2cu

Standard, you could call the flop and raise/push a lot of turn cards if you were looking for an alternative line.
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Old 04-18-2007, 03:20 PM
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Standard, you could call the flop and raise/push a lot of turn cards if you were looking for an alternative line.

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Old 04-18-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: gutterball+fd v good2cu

He raised UTG, then continuation bet against two people on an ace high board.

My thoughts:
-For the reason listed above, he usually has a strong hand
-You say that your sample size is small, as such I'm assuming that he has no reads on you and assumes that you are a random 2/4 donkey.

I'm going to assume that Good2cu won't fold most of his decent hands to an unknown 2/4 player. As such, raising isn't going to gain you much fold equity. Sometimes it will buy you a turn card (for a price) but often times he will shove over your raise as happened here. I think the best line is to call the flop here and reevaluate on the turn. If he knew you and that you weren't capable of stacking off with AT then I can see a raise since he will be put in a tough spot with a lot of good but not great hands.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: gutterball+fd v good2cu

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He raised UTG, then continuation bet against two people on an ace high board.

My thoughts:
-For the reason listed above, he usually has a strong hand


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absolutely not true.
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: gutterball+fd v good2cu

which line seems better? call and eval turn? or raise/call? is raise/fold too weak a line?
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:55 PM
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why is g2cu @ 2/4?

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