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Old 07-27-2007, 07:50 PM
Wolfram Wolfram is offline
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Default TJo - hit TP in 4way raised pot and flop is checked through

No read on turn bettor. Does a FSD play make any sense here?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks,

Turn: (8 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, hero checks???

Final Pot: 8 BB
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: TJo - hit TP in 4way raised pot and flop is checked through

Bet the river. He probably has like A3 here. Turn raise is good because youre in good shape vs his range and you want to drive out any weak draws behind you.
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:46 PM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Re: TJo - hit TP in 4way raised pot and flop is checked through

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Does a FSD play make any sense here?


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Nope.

Turn raise is good for value and protection. The river is a clear value bet.

Guy.
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:21 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: TJo - hit TP in 4way raised pot and flop is checked through

Not betting this flop is a clear mistake against most opponents and no I am not being results oriented. As played, value bet river.
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: TJo - hit TP in 4way raised pot and flop is checked through

u dont think button c bets 4 ways enough to go for the cr with no read? U prefer trying to catch the limper in there rather than shut him out/ let it check thru. I do happen to agree with u here just playing devils advocate some what.

would u ever ck 3 ways with no read on the pfr? how passive of a read before ud donk into the pfr?

i think id just call the turn, as played Id bet the river.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:06 PM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: TJo - hit TP in 4way raised pot and flop is checked through

I usually bet TPGK in a 4-way pot. Even if button c-bets we have a potential caller after him and I don't like building a large multiwaypot with a vulnarble made hand. I think that this flop gets roundchecked to often 4-ways.

As played I like the turnraise for value and protection and I would bet river for value.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:10 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: TJo - hit TP in 4way raised pot and flop is checked through

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u dont think button c bets 4 ways enough to go for the cr with no read? U prefer trying to catch the limper in there rather than shut him out/ let it check thru. I do happen to agree with u here just playing devils advocate some what.

would u ever ck 3 ways with no read on the pfr? how passive of a read before ud donk into the pfr?

i think id just call the turn, as played Id bet the river.

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I dont ever want this pot getting checked around when I have a vulnerable top pair like this. Most players have a much narrower cont bet range when its 4way or more. I need a read that the PFR will always bet the flop before I would rather go for a check/raise. With no read, I dont take any chances with a vulnerable top pair hand in a nice sized pot.
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