($12) I'm not going broke with TPTK. Yeah, right...

[Pocketbear]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1530
UTG+1: t1455
MP1: t1550
MP2: t1525
MP3: t1420
CO: t1140
Button: t2070
Hero: t1280
BB: t1530

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls t25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t125)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t150, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t100</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t250)</font>.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t350, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t200</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to t400</font>, Hero calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t950)</font>.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t1150, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 is all-in t975</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in t730</font>.

No reads on the villain. When he minraised me on the turn I've got completely lost... A set? Weird two pair? Can I really fold here having invested 40% of my stack already?

What would be your line? Check/call the turn for pot control reasons or what?

[AMT]

id probably just shove the turn. a minraise indicates hes an idiot, and there are a lot of weird draws and TP hands in his range.

[Dr_Wonderful]

looks like he has 4-6 to me. You pretty much have to call his river bet, I would have bet more on the flop and went all in on the turn though.

[Pocketbear]

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looks like he has 4-6 to me

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Given your read are you willing to go broke here?

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I would have bet more on the flop and went all in on the turn though.

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More? Like a pot? Are T50 more changing something here? Or are you offering an overbet?

[holy32]

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id probably just shove the turn. a minraise indicates hes an idiot, and there are a lot of weird draws and TP hands in his range.

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You push the turn ? I'm guessing you mean after his minraise, but isnt a set much more likely here than a TP hand ? He wouldnt be (min)raising QJ,KJ,TJ methinks...

[pauliewalnuts]

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looks like he has 4-6 to me. You pretty much have to call his river bet, I would have bet more on the flop and went all in on the turn though.

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You really put an MP limper on 46 just because he minraised this turn? A set is much more likely, but I'm still probably pushing over his raise.

[luthar]

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You really put an MP limper on 46 just because he minraised this turn? A set is much more likely , but I'm still probably NOT pushing over his raise.

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I don't get how you can think you can be ahead here...

[AMT]

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You really put an MP limper on 46 just because he minraised this turn? A set is much more likely , but I'm still probably NOT pushing over his raise.

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I don't get how you can think you can be ahead here...

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we can further debate whether a shove/call/fold is the best line if people life, i dont have much energy to continue with the thread, but if you think hero is *never* good here, i dont think youve played enough 12 dollar sngs. ive seen plenty of minraises with air, much less actual made hands that hero can beat here.

[TheCat]

I agree, your flop bet should have been near pot sized otherwise you give villian good odds to draw and beat you.

[paddytokey]

preflop raise.flop potsize bet and when that guy in mp calls preflop after limping and calls a pot bet you usually can be certain that he is holding a-a,k-k or on this flop a set.obviously nothing you can beat.so c/f on the turn.