AJs

[Adam Stewart]

Just scrolling through a session on PokerTracker and saw this hand. I'm not sure if I had any reads on my opponent(s) here, so just treat everyone like unknowns.

Comments on all streets?


Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, A.
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>,2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) J, 5, T (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) K(2 players)
BB bets, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="red">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 5 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

[wackjob]

versus an unknown, standard? sometimes I will raise this flop, but HU I don't think its bad to wait until the turn either, one of the few likely draws got there on the turn, so calling down might not be awful either.

[admiralfluff]

Against an unknown I just raise/cap the flop.

Given your turn raise, you kind of have to call down.

[rubbrband]

I would raise the flop every time against most every player.

[Adam Stewart]

You guys don't see value in waiting to raise the turn?


Adam

[Azalin]

Against an unknown my default is to raise the flop. On a non drawish board i usually wait to raise the river with TPTK and having a pair of J or better.

[Victor]

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You guys don't see value in waiting to raise the turn?


Adam

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not when a kingh hits.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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You guys don't see value in waiting to raise the turn?


Adam

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When playing against an unknown donker HU, I have a different style than most 2+2ers, I smooth call alot more flops with hand like top pair. So IMO, there's plenty of value in waiting til a bigger street to make a decision. Part of the value of your decision to wait is getting to see even more cards before the strategic moment arrives. If a bad card slides off, you will now be very happy you didnt raise the flop. If a good/neutral card hits and can go ahead and execute your strategy.

The king on the turn was a very bad card for you, so I think your turn raise is bad. Once the King hits its times to just call down.

[Surf]

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You guys don't see value in waiting to raise the turn?


Adam

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When playing against an unknown donker HU, I have a different style than most 2+2ers, I smooth call alot more flops with hand like top pair. So IMO, there's plenty of value in waiting til a bigger street to make a decision. Part of the value of your decision to wait is getting to see even more cards before the strategic moment arrives. If a bad card slides off, you will now be very happy you didnt raise the flop. If a good/neutral card hits and can go ahead and execute your strategy.

The king on the turn was a very bad card for you, so I think your turn raise is bad. Once the King hits its times to just call down.

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Yes. I'm so happy ILP is posting, i can just follow him around and quote his replies.

Surf

[Evigt_Drabbad]

agreed with ILP (good posts as usually) [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]