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Old 06-15-2006, 12:33 PM
jonny pots jonny pots is offline
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Default Ways to pnish a weak player to your left

I was wondering how some of you deal with a calling machine to your left. Especially in a situation where it gets folded around to you on SB or button, is limping in with less then premium hands a good idea, where if you hit a flop you can maximize your profits? Also what is your raising philiosphies with this same player holding premium hands? Arguements of pot building and maximizing profit and when to push this type of player out(which usually takes a huge bet)
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Old 06-15-2006, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Ways to pnish a weak player to your left

I don't like when people talk about 'punishing' these types of players.

I think the word 'profit' should be used. How can you most profit from them?

Get a hand, and bet, bet, bet.
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Old 06-15-2006, 01:02 PM
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knee him in the balls?
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Old 06-15-2006, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Ways to pnish a weak player to your left

Well, a leak of mine is getting an idea into my head about a player to my left and then pushing my luck by cbetting & 2nd barrelling too often/at the wrong moment and getting caught. This is especially true if you catch a bit of the flop.

Consequence: session ruined.

So I try to concentrate extra-hard on not being a dumba$$ whenever I go after him.
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Old 06-16-2006, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: Ways to pnish a weak player to your left

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Well, a leak of mine is getting an idea into my head about a player to my left and then pushing my luck by cbetting & 2nd barrelling too often/at the wrong moment and getting caught. This is especially true if you catch a bit of the flop.

Consequence: session ruined.

So I try to concentrate extra-hard on not being a dumba$$ whenever I go after him.

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and I thought it was only me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-17-2006, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: Ways to pnish a weak player to your left

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I was wondering how some of you deal with a calling machine to your left.

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Come on, use your brain cells for a while. This one isn't very difficult to figure out.

What do calling stations do? They call. A lot. Too often.
So, if you want to make a profit from someone who's calling too often, how could you do that? Make him call when he shouldn't.
When is calling costing him money? When he's behind and doesn't get correct odds for his draw.

So, think about it, should you play more (marginal & weak) hands against him?
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Old 06-17-2006, 05:03 AM
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So, think about it, should you play more (marginal & weak) hands against him?

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As long as you can get in cheap you should play pretty much any two cards against him. Just don't bet until you've made your hand and punish him accordingly.
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Old 06-18-2006, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: Ways to pnish a weak player to your left

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Well, a leak of mine is getting an idea into my head about a player to my left and then pushing my luck by cbetting & 2nd barrelling too often/at the wrong moment and getting caught. This is especially true if you catch a bit of the flop.

Consequence: session ruined.

So I try to concentrate extra-hard on not being a dumba$$ whenever I go after him.

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and I thought it was only me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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This makes 3 of us. I actually took notes on myself saying "being an idiot against an idiot is still -EV".

Learn from our mistakes. You aren't playing to punish another player, you're playing to take his money. I've lost many $$$ trying to teach calling stations and maniacs a lesson. Don't alter the way you play for these guys, just make sure they are paying a high price to play their marginal hands against you.
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Old 06-18-2006, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Ways to punish a weak player to your left

Another way to profit from them is to elevate your value bets slightly. For instance a typical value bet from me is usually in the 1/2 to 3/4 size sometimes even up to potsize depending on the texture of the board. With the calling station, I will bet it for 3/4 to as much as 1-1/2 the pot.
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