hand vs durrrr, top pair deep HU

[KRANTZ]

We've been 3-tabling for about 1.5 hours. He shifts in and out of different modes - 3-betting and 4-betting incessantly, to calling and leading, double, triple bets every time. He's in reraise way light mode right now.

Some history: he seems to "value-bluff" a lot in big pots. Meaning making what appears to be a two-way bet in which a better hand might fold and a worse hand might call. Two examples:

http://www.pokerhand.org/?998449

and

http://www.pokerhand.org/?998459

So here's the hand - those of you who have seen results, please try not to be too results oriented. I thought it was a very tough decision - turn put up some draws so that widens his range. Gaucho was watching most of the match so maybe he can comment on anything I've left out.

POKERSTARS GAME #9410892051: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($25/$50) - 2007/04/14 - 00:38:02 (ET)
Table 'Luna IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 6: Hold_emNL ($11387 in chips)
Seat 7: purplEUROS ($16549 in chips)
purplEUROS: posts small blind $25
Hold_emNL: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to purplEUROS [Qc Jh]
purplEUROS: raises $100 to $150
Hold_emNL: raises $400 to $550
purplEUROS: calls $400
*** FLOP *** [Qh 2s 7d]
Hold_emNL: bets $850
purplEUROS: calls $850
*** TURN *** [Qh 2s 7d] [Ts]
Hold_emNL: bets $2350
purplEUROS: calls $2350
*** RIVER *** [Qh 2s 7d Ts] [7c]
Hold_emNL: bets $7637 and is all-in

[TheWorstPlayer]

How have YOU been playing? Also, hand 1 looks like pure 100% value from him. Hand 2, I can kinda see as two-way although it really just looks like a bluff to me.

No idea what I would do in the actual hand. Hope this post is helpful.

[TrainHardDieHard]

Hey euros i was watching you guys play for a while. How much did you end up/down during that HU session ?

[snagglepuss]

im confused by your comments on the two prior hands you posted. both look like straight up value plays to me.

as to the hand, obv it is a close spot. prolly a fold though. hand simply isn't going to be good often enough here, and durr can show up w/ KQ here.

[KRANTZ]

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How have YOU been playing? Also, hand 1 looks like pure 100% value from him. Hand 2, I can kinda see as two-way although it really just looks like a bluff to me.

No idea what I would do in the actual hand. Hope this post is helpful.

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i've been playing well in all the big pots. i've called his double barrels in normal raised pots and nearly every single river has been a bad one, he's potted and i've folded a lot.

i guess my comments about value bluffing apply moreso to the Q6 4-bet pot than the QQ hand. he seems to not fear me trapping him or thinks i might fold something a bit better.

snaggle, by your logic though, if he can show up with QK can't he show up with Q4? JJ?

[snagglepuss]

i mean of course he can sometimes. but not as often as AQ/KQ. mainly because they beat all of your top pair hands you are calling down with, obv. more likely to chk Q4/JJ. durrr may love to 3barrel, and he may love to induce, but i think he holds valuetowning closest to his heart, and this river is a fold.

[fsuplayer]

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im confused by your comments on the two prior hands you posted. both look like straight up value plays to me.

as to the hand, obv it is a close spot. prolly a fold though. hand simply isn't going to be good often enough here, and durr can show up w/ KQ here.

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ding.

[raptor517]

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i mean of course he can sometimes. but not as often as AQ/KQ. mainly because they beat all of your top pair hands you are calling down with, obv. more likely to chk Q4/JJ. durrr may love to 3barrel, and he may love to induce, but i think he holds valuetowning closest to his heart, and this river is a fold.

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i agree with snagglepuss here. i dont think u can profitably call the river.

[Ansky]

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i mean of course he can sometimes. but not as often as AQ/KQ. mainly because they beat all of your top pair hands you are calling down with, obv. more likely to chk Q4/JJ. durrr may love to 3barrel, and he may love to induce, but i think he holds valuetowning closest to his heart, and this river is a fold.

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i agree with snagglepuss here. i dont think u can profitably call the river.

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whatever. what do you know

[raptor517]

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i mean of course he can sometimes. but not as often as AQ/KQ. mainly because they beat all of your top pair hands you are calling down with, obv. more likely to chk Q4/JJ. durrr may love to 3barrel, and he may love to induce, but i think he holds valuetowning closest to his heart, and this river is a fold.

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i agree with snagglepuss here. i dont think u can profitably call the river.

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whatever. what do you know

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