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Old 10-23-2007, 02:20 PM
ranka ranka is offline
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Default NL50: TP/TK vs Passive Villain

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Reads:
Villain is UTG+1: 17/7/1; No special notes.

Stacks:
Hero ($170.50)
SB ($35.35)
BB ($37.90)
UTG ($49.50)
UTG+1 ($48.75)
MP1 ($76.95)
MP2 ($38.20)
CO ($53.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $11.5</font>, Hero calls $6.50.

Turn: ($28.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $15.5</font>, Hero ?

Questions:
Flop: I called the flop raise because I got very-very confused. Passive villain minraises (little bit more than minraise) and took lead from me. I always get confused in similar situation - folding is so weak and raising means commiting my stack. Looks like set? If yes, I would fold but I can't fold to "minraise". What I would do? Call is correct?

And turn - do we call, raise or fold here? I can't see any point to call this raise. We shove or we fold. Or ?
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:29 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: NL50: TP/TK vs Passive Villain

Just fold the flop when your cb gets c/r'ed. At best, you are up against a big combo draw. But you are more likely up against a set. There is no way a 17/7/1 is going to show up here with AQ, KQ, JQ, or a bluff with 77 (or some other weak hand) often enough for you to make staying in this hand past his c/r profitable. You don't even have the possibility of a decent redraw, like to a backdoor flush. So, fold on the flop to the c/r. As played, fold the turn.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:40 PM
RapidEvolution RapidEvolution is offline
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Default Re: NL50: TP/TK vs Passive Villain

I agree with Albert. You don't really want to play for stacks with TPTK against a passive villain. Fold to the minraise and keep your nose clean. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Your stack is awesome. :P
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:38 PM
PLAYOFFS PLAYOFFS is offline
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Default Re: NL50: TP/TK vs Passive Villain

He is normally passive. He is playing aggro. Fold. Obviously, some villains may use this to their advantage, I just hate this spot too much. He's setting himself up for AI on the river.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:46 PM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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Default Re: NL50: TP/TK vs Passive Villain

if you have enough hands vs him to make AF accurate fold the flop
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:48 PM
ActionStan ActionStan is offline
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Default Re: NL50: TP/TK vs Passive Villain

When a passive villain minraises, he has TT or 33.
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