Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-23-2007, 12:21 PM
tozzy tozzy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Vienna
Posts: 2,182
Default 3/6, JJ, 3bet pot, thinking villain

Villain in this hand is YourDaddyLovesYou, a TAG/LAG running at 24/20/4.5 over our first 1k hands. Hes quite aggressive and decent. We have some 3betting history and he might perceive me as a little wild, we played some hands for stacks and I showed down light twice.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $574.00
Hero (BB): $1,024.85
UTG: $472.10
CO: $644.75
BTN: $316.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $87.00</font>, CO calls $63.00

Flop: ($177) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $136.00</font>, CO calls $136.00

Turn: ($449) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ??? - Villain has 420 left

I am totally lost in this spot. I'd check my AK for bluffinduce here, but I'm quite sure hes unaware of this. I believe, however, that hes pushing most of his range after I check, still, I cant figure out a single hand hed play this way except for maybe KK. I think hed 4bet AK/QQ pf. He might coldcall KK/AA, but I dont really know.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-23-2007, 12:23 PM
FGators FGators is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,339
Default Re: 3/6, JJ, 3bet pot, thinking villain

Pretty gross. I was thinking about alternatives but first off I can't see doing much else but checking.

Shoving/betting rarely gets called by worse. The best we can do is induce here but it's going to be a really tough call.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-23-2007, 12:24 PM
freeucm freeucm is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 618
Default Re: 3/6, JJ, 3bet pot, thinking villain

i check/fold.

What good does a bet on flop give us here, he only folds worse hands and calls better hands, why not just check/call or check/fold.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-23-2007, 01:59 PM
tozzy tozzy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Vienna
Posts: 2,182
Default Re: 3/6, JJ, 3bet pot, thinking villain

[ QUOTE ]


What good does a bet on flop give us here, he only folds worse hands and calls better hands, why not just check/call or check/fold.

[/ QUOTE ]
I was thinking about this too and came to the conclussion that metagame aspects are really important here. We just cant only bet AK/AA/KK here and check anything else.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-23-2007, 02:11 PM
Borned_Luckbox1 Borned_Luckbox1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 510
Default Re: 3/6, JJ, 3bet pot, thinking villain

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


What good does a bet on flop give us here, he only folds worse hands and calls better hands, why not just check/call or check/fold.

[/ QUOTE ]
I was thinking about this too and came to the conclussion that metagame aspects are really important here. We just cant only bet AK/AA/KK here and check anything else.

[/ QUOTE ]

we bet air yoo.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-23-2007, 05:53 PM
Requin Requin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Back online
Posts: 6,446
Default Re: 3/6, JJ, 3bet pot, thinking villain

This guy can make retarded/too many bluffs. I check of course, depends on your history but calling is definately not bad. If you've played like 3 rr pots in the last two orbits with him say, I'd felt.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-23-2007, 06:12 PM
tozzy tozzy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Vienna
Posts: 2,182
Default Re: 3/6, JJ, 3bet pot, thinking villain

Nothing within the last hundred hands. I know hes able to push 100% of his range here, but what does that really mean? Does that include 77-TT?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-23-2007, 06:38 PM
Requin Requin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Back online
Posts: 6,446
Default Re: 3/6, JJ, 3bet pot, thinking villain

No I don't think he'd bet those. I just meant he can definately float in a rr pot.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.