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Old 11-14-2006, 10:54 AM
ssnyc ssnyc is offline
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Default And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

Stars $5.50 with about 600 people...Hero has been completely card dead and seen very few flops through the first few levels...

thought process on flop was that I didnt love it but I'll peel one more off for 50 with such a big pot...turn looked good but I'm thinking I'm way ahead (rainbow too) and can catch some bluffs or I am toast...I'm not sure if I should raise here? river is relatively ugly and I still wasnt giving much credence to 50 raise boy...

The all in sucked...I was ready to fold but my thinking was that it was only a PSB and the big stack could have been making a late position steal bet...no one showed any strenght so far and few hands beat me (5 9, 9 10 and sets or two pair that filled)

Thoughts? Better line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed)

Hero (t1210)
BB (t950)
UTG (t6665)
UTG+1 (t1420)
MP1 (t1120)
MP2 (t3460)
MP3 (t1795)
CO (t3105)
Button (t1295)

Preflop: Hero is SB with QS 5S
UTG calls t50
UTG+1 calls t50,
1 fold
MP2 calls t50
MP3 calls t50
2 folds
Hero completes
BB checks

Flop: (t300) 8S 7C 6H (6 players)
Hero checks
BB bets t50
UTG calls t50
UTG+1 calls t50
MP2 calls t50
MP3 calls t50
Hero calls t50

Turn: (t600) 4D (6 players)
Hero checks
BB bets t50
UTG calls t50
UTG+1 calls t50
MP2 calls t50
MP3 calls t50
Hero calls t50

River: (t900) 8C (6 players)
Hero checks
BB bets t50
UTG folds
UTG+1 folds
MP2 raises to t3310
MP3 folds
Hero calls t1060 (All-In)
BB folds

Final Pot: t5320
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:08 AM
Soulman Soulman is offline
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Default Re: And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

Check-Raise turn hard please, 500 or so. As played, eh...puke and call I guess.
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:10 AM
ssnyc ssnyc is offline
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Default Re: And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

soul...if I check raise turn 500 with 500 behind...am I folding to a reraise? I guess that would be the correct play but man that would suck!!
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:13 AM
FortunaMaximus FortunaMaximus is offline
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Default Re: And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

CRAI turn. This is one [censored] weird hand and I actually had to go back and check that it was NL. If your straight's good, you want to get called by nines and sets. If someone's already got T9, you were destined to go broke if you called flop anyway.
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

1. use a hand converter ---> www.flopturnriver.com
2. what r u doing calling on the turn with a straight, with 5 people called 50 in front of you.
3. i dont mind the call on the river, even tho your probably beat
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

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soul...if I check raise turn 500 with 500 behind...am I folding to a reraise? I guess that would be the correct play but man that would suck!!

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Why would u fold with 60% chips commited to win around 2.5k
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

okay...all those advocating a turn raise...if I go all in I get called by 10 9 and yes maybe (maybe) some hands I beat...with a rainbow board I figured I get more value by letting others build the pot...

If I bet less than all in on turn do I fold to a reraise? If not than am I not achieving basically the same result but with more dead money the way I played it?
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

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Check-Raise flop hard please, 500 or so. As played, eh...puke and call I guess.

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AND turn.
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

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okay...all those advocating a turn raise...if I go all in I get called by 10 9 and yes maybe (maybe) some hands I beat...with a rainbow board I figured I get more value by letting others build the pot...

If I bet less than all in on turn do I fold to a reraise? If not than am I not achieving basically the same result but with more dead money the way I played it?

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Do I fold 2nd nuts to a reraise... hmmm... NO!!!!

not in a [censored] $5 tourney.
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:01 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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Default Re: And our hero really really wants to fold the river but!!!

Only question in this hand is how much to check/raise the turn with. You have 1110 left in your stack and there's 900 in the pot, and in most situations it would be an easy all-in. However, this hand is a little weird because you have five donkey opponents, none of which has shown much strength, just calling 50 on each street, except BB who has thrown out two donkbets. Since this is a 5$ donkament, plenty of guys are going to call you with a set or gutshot or two pair, so just move in.
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