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#1
08-19-2006, 05:29 AM
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3 handed hilo 30/60
villain has been pretty aggro so far.
Poker Stars Limit Omaha Ring game Limit: $30/$60 3 players Converter Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls <font color="#aaaaaa">(2.5:1)</font>. Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls <font color="#aaaaaa">(8:1)</font>. Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls <font color="#aaaaaa">(7.5:1)</font>. River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8.5BB, 2 players) SB checks, Hero 
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#2
08-19-2006, 06:11 AM
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Re: 3 handed hilo 30/60
river is an easy bet. nut low + a pair is a great hand here. you have no reason to fear getting quartered here, so you bet for value, hoping he ended up with a weak low on the river. In fact i think i would bet without the king here just for the small chance that he folds a better hand (pair of 4s, low pocketpair, etc).
the flop raise is more questionable. i dont think a flop raise is a good against an aggressive player. For one, he will get value out of his better high hands by 3betting. two, even if he doesnt 3bet you he still has a good number of cards he can hit on the turn to see you through to the river. so your raise isn't for value and it doesnt generate much fold equity. if you had a pair to go with your nut low draw on the flop a raise would be good because it gives you more equity for the times he doesnt have a pair and for the times that you hit two pair on a later street.
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#4
08-19-2006, 02:46 PM
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Re: 3 handed hilo 30/60
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why raise the flop? What did you hope would happen? -g [/ QUOTE ] *I play full ring* But isnt his play here standard because he is taking the lead and SBs opening range is most likely pretty wide. SB cant show down one pair can he? And taking all that heat puts him in a bad spot with even a lot of other hands. Raising the turn when a low card hits just seems super transparent and then I think he shows down more. In addition even a duece or try hits he still will be good most of the time with his 6. I want to raise to take control because there is a reasonable chance he might fold, and if he doesnt I have the nut low draw. But to address the actual hand the river is an easy bet. If he calls you will most likely win half, but he has to call first which IMP he cant do with a lot of hands.
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#5
08-19-2006, 02:59 PM
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Re: 3 handed hilo 30/60
This is an easy bet. He has to have a perfect 4 card hand (nut low + 2 pair) for you to be quartered. If you bet and he raises and you get quartered you put in 2 more bets and lost 1.5 bets that you wouldn't if you had checked. If you check and he shows down a pair of Aces he wins 4.25 bets you could have won by making him fold to your bet.
The upside of betting is almost three times as valuable as the downside, and he definitely folds WAY more than he check/raises. I honestly don't even see a check/raise as a possibility here, I'm just using it as an example of why you have to bet here.
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#6
08-19-2006, 04:45 PM
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Re: 3 handed hilo 30/60
actually he only has to have A23x
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#7
08-19-2006, 05:02 PM
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Re: 3 handed hilo 30/60
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actually he only has to have A23x [/ QUOTE ] the turn? seems pretty standard to do so.... doesnt he 3bet A23x on on the turn? seems pretty standard to do so. anyways i bet the riv and we split. also, i cant believe ppl dont think this flop is a rz...i have the nut low draw, on an A high flop. if hes raising KKxx or some other random hand into me then i can also get him to fold...also i can charge him to draw to a worse low than me
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#8
08-19-2006, 05:10 PM
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Re: 3 handed hilo 30/60
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[ QUOTE ] actually he only has to have A23x [/ QUOTE ] the turn? seems pretty standard to do so.... doesnt he 3bet A23x on on the turn? seems pretty standard to do so. anyways i bet the riv and we split. also, i cant believe ppl dont think this flop is a rz...i have the nut low draw, on an A high flop. if hes raising KKxx or some other random hand into me then i can also get him to fold...also i can charge him to draw to a worse low than me [/ QUOTE ] I dont think raising on the flop is bad necessarily, its just that you have no high and a draw to half the pot. How often do you think he has no ace, no middle pair, no lowish draw -g
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#9
08-19-2006, 05:33 PM
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Re: 3 handed hilo 30/60
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why raise the flop? What did you hope would happen? -g [/ QUOTE ] He folds KKQJ etc instantly, he calls with A5KQ, then folds to an unfavorable card, or he calls with whatever and checks the turn, giving a free card. I like a flop raise.
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#10
08-19-2006, 06:15 PM
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Re: 3 handed hilo 30/60
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also, i cant believe ppl dont think this flop is a rz...i have the nut low draw, on an A high flop. if hes raising KKxx or some other random hand into me then i can also get him to fold...also i can charge him to draw to a worse low than me [/ QUOTE ] you have poor counterfeit protection and king high.
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