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Old 05-27-2007, 05:21 AM
memch memch is offline
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Default What tables to play with my budget

Hi everyone,
i will be going to vegas for only one night, with a little over 24 hours and 2000 dollars. i am a semi-experienced player in online poker and some home games mostly limit. I want to play some NL in Vegas and I need advice on what limits and tables to play. i am willing to risk all my budget but want to be able to win as much as well which i know depends on luck and good play espeacially in 24 hours. which limits suit me well? which casinos are recommended? i have to say comfort and chill people are most important for me as I am an easy going personality and dont like cramped rooms with people talking [censored] all the time. i am going there to have fun after all.
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Old 05-27-2007, 05:49 AM
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I want to play some NL in Vegas and I need advice on what limits and tables to play. i am willing to risk all my budget but want to be able to win as much as well which i know depends on luck and good play espeacially in 24 hours. which limits suit me well?

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If you have to ask, definitely start at 1/2 NL. You sound like you want a smaller room, though the Vegas guys can help you out with that. As well as winning as much as you can, don't rush it with NL, you start getting your sights set on tripling your roll in a day, things can get expensive quick. Just play well and have a decent time.
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Old 05-27-2007, 06:11 AM
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I'll spin the bottle and see where it lands...

Caesars. It's spacious. Sit down in the NL1/3 game with $200 and get comfy. When you are comfy, take your stack to $300 or $400. If you are still happy and want to play higher, move to 2/5 and put $500 to $700 on the table. Or just keep chillin' at the NL1/3 where the max buy is $500. And if you're there on a weekend enjoy the eye candy in the PussyCatDolls casino area and waiting in line outside the poker room to get into Pure.

Let's spin the bottle again...

Venetian would be another similar sorta choice but the 1/2 game is capped at $300 so you have less room to play bigger without moving to 2/5 (which has a $1000 cap). But it'd be fine and is even more spacious than Caesars.

One more spin...

MGM. Plenty of elbow room, but the NL1/2 game is a $200 cap so that won't flex your $2000 budget very much in a single day. You'd have to head to 2/5 to get to a bigger buyin (capped at $500).

Mirage also has 1/2 and 2/5 with the same caps as MGM. It's always felt kinda crowded in there, though, even after they remodeled the place slightly. But I actually kinda like their 2/5 games a bit better than MGM's.

Wynn is plain crowded. Getting to and from some of the seats is like trying to get to a center coach seat in a 737 on a budget airline. They have uncapped NL1/3 and NL2/5 that should please you, though.

Bellagio and Rio the smallest NL game is 2/5, capped at $500, so it doesn't give you an easy way to get your feet wet. And Bellagio packs 'em in like sardines so it doesn't even slightly meet your requirement for breathing room.

'Course if you're gonna be there during the WSOP, you sorta HAVE to visit the Rio at least to see it, even if you don't play anything there.
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:11 AM
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With 24 hours, I'd go with 2/5 at MGM Grand, buyin max twice, if you lose the first $1000, drop to 1/2 NL with 5 buyins, lose the first 3 too quick, use last $400 on limit.

Good luck! 8)
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:36 AM
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lol advice from the Trainwreck
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:56 PM
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Caesars. It's spacious . Sit down in the NL1/3 game with $200 and get comfy. When you are comfy, take your stack to $300 or $400. If you are still happy and want to play higher, move to 2/5 and put $500 to $700 on the table. Or just keep chillin' at the NL1/3 where the max buy is $500. And if you're there on a weekend enjoy the eye candy in the PussyCatDolls casino area and waiting in line outside the poker room to get into Pure.

Let's spin the bottle again...

Venetian would be another similar sorta choice but the 1/2 game is capped at $300 so you have less room to play bigger without moving to 2/5 (which has a $1000 cap). But it'd be fine and is even more spacious than Caesars.

One more spin...

MGM. Plenty of elbow room , but the NL1/2 game is a $200 cap so that won't flex your $2000 budget very much in a single day. You'd have to head to 2/5 to get to a bigger buyin (capped at $500).

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Does this mean that the tables are actually larger and the chairs are superior? It would be awesome if that was the case. The cramped quarters typically featured in live play have caused me to almost totally avoid it for the last couple of years.
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:34 PM
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Does this mean that the tables are actually larger and the chairs are superior? It would be awesome if that was the case. The cramped quarters typically featured in live play have caused me to almost totally avoid it for the last couple of years.

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Oh... you want actual elbow-to-elbow room at a specific table, not space between the tables? You're ok if the chairs bump and grind into each other and the waitresses have to hand you drinks over 2 players and the table felt?

Imperial Palace has the most ginormous tables in the poker universe. They put 10 players at 'em but they could hold 12 with about the same room as most 9-player tables. But 2/4 and NL1/2 is all you'll normally find there, and even NL is iffy before like 5pm on a weekday. Probably not what you're looking for if you really want to put a substantial fraction of your $2K budget at risk. But if you just want a $200 cap NL1/2 game with lots of table space, IP works.

Venetian tables are fine. Caesars now (finally) only puts 9 players at a table so that'd be fine as well. MGM crams 10 players at the table if I recall right--lots of room between the tables but not a lot of extra elbow room between the players. Mirage tables are smallish so even though they only seat 9 at a table it feels cramped. And Wynn and Bellagio just feel tight all around--I think they could put 6 players at a table and it'd feel claustrophobic just 'cause the tables are packed in so tight.

No poker chairs are comfy. That's a rule. Caesars, Wynn, Bellagio, Venetian all have better than straight-leg and straight-back chairs for the players, but honestly I find the normal straight leg chairs almost as good. But chairs are a dreadfully personal thing and some folks love the V's chairs while I'm not fond of 'em (they make my rear tend to overheat). Caesars chairs are ok if you get one of the 60% that still actually roll around (about 40% the chairs have at least one caster that's fubar). Wynn chairs are fine. Bellagio chairs some people rave about but I tend more toward rant--dunno why but they just ain't all that comfy for me.
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:15 PM
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MGM crams 10 players at the table if I recall right--lots of room between the tables but not a lot of extra elbow room between the players.

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I was just there yesterday and can verify. What exacerbates the tightness is the marble racetrack. It make you want to keep your cards on the felt inside the track, which makes you have to sit closer to the table instead of back a bit like I usually sit.

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No poker chairs are comfy. That's a rule. Caesars, Wynn, Bellagio, Venetian all have better than straight-leg and straight-back chairs for the players, but honestly I find the normal straight leg chairs almost as good. But chairs are a dreadfully personal thing and some folks love the V's chairs while I'm not fond of 'em (they make my rear tend to overheat). Caesars chairs are ok if you get one of the 60% that still actually roll around (about 40% the chairs have at least one caster that's fubar). Wynn chairs are fine. Bellagio chairs some people rave about but I tend more toward rant--dunno why but they just ain't all that comfy for me.

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I like straight back and leg chairs because they don't wear out. Bellagio chairs were probably nice when they were brand new. The seat pivots on the post with a spring that theoretically allows them to weeble-wobble and let you lean back in comfort. The problem is that they are all worn out and most of them are in permanent weeble mode, which forces you to balance on the post if you weigh more than 60 pounds. It's exhausting after a few hours. When I stayed there on a poker rate, I could hardly walk. I hate them. Wynn's chairs are nearly as bad. They have height adjusters that don't adjust any more on most of them. You end up doing a Goldilocks trying to find a chair that fits. When you find one, it inevitably will be tilted off to the side so you sit cattywampus. Give me good old-fashioned kitchen table chairs any day.
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: What tables to play with my budget

seems like trainwreck gave an interesting strategy to keep playing even though i lose, how should i gear up if i keep winning move upto which tables? will 8/16 or 15/30 limit be too much for my budget?
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:05 PM
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will 8/16 or 15/30 limit be too much for my budget?

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You're bringing 125BB for the 8/16, 66+ for the 15/30. It'd be hard to go through that in 24 hours.
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