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Old 07-22-2007, 07:22 AM
HenkvanderMast HenkvanderMast is offline
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Default Pushing against a possible tilter

Villain was 68/9/0.8 for 31 hands.
He went to showtime everytime he played with very bad hands.
Underpairs, bottom pair, middle pair bad kicker etc.

The flop check was bad probably, but I got a little lost with my AKs (as often). I was planning to fold to a big bet probably (kinda nitty against this guy I think)

Because he checked behind and I caught my flushdraw + I had a gutshot and some folding equity after het showed weakness checking behind on the flop I pushed the turn.

Was the rr preflop good?
How should I have played the flop?
Was pushing on the turn the right thing to do? (I think it was but sometimes I'm losing my head in big pots so if you guys agree it would boost my confidence [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]).


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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $4.4</font>, Button calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $19.6</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($44.35, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $13.95, Sidepot 1: $30.4)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($44.35, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $13.95, Sidepot 1: $30.4)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $35.8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $29.6</font>.
Uncalled bets: $6.2 returned to Hero.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($103.55, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $13.95, Sidepot 1: $89.6)



Final pot: $103.55
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:29 AM
Spurious Spurious is offline
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Default Re: Pushing against a possible tilter

Weird preflop from button, he calls the rereraise and then raises.
I like the isolation raise to 12 preflop.
Flop is fine imo.
Turn: Fine.

I think wellplayed.
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:31 AM
crovax4444 crovax4444 is offline
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Default Re: Pushing against a possible tilter

To above poster: What isolation raise? It was HU at that point

To OP:
Post stack sizes at top, I don't want to have to calculate it

I would have pushed it PF.

As played, bad turn push.

Please don't show the river.

Crovax
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:34 AM
HenkvanderMast HenkvanderMast is offline
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Default Re: Pushing against a possible tilter

Thanks for the feedback, sorry for not posting the stack sizes etc.

If he would have bet the flop for a reasonable amount, it would be an easy fold right?

How would you play the turn crovax?

I posted river instead of turn
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: Pushing against a possible tilter

I would just push ai preflop after buttons strange mini-reraise.
Behind of 22-AA and ahead of the rest.

As played I would have bet the flop or turn if we checked the flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:37 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Pushing against a possible tilter

Once Button cold-call/min-5-bets preflop, he's either being weird (possible) or he has a very strong hand. I think the flop check is fine. Folding to a push from Villain is probably also at least a consideration, but it sure is tempting to call, getting 5:2, with your overs + gutshot + backdoor flush. I mean, if he just has QQ, folding would be terrible, since you're not even a very big underdog versus that hand. So, hmm, you're in very bad shape if Villain has AA like his play sort of represents, but I think I'd call and hope for the best.

Turn, I dunno, I probably check again, but I'm calling any bet from Villain, including a push. You have no folding equity, but you're also not very far behind random PPs, so a bet is for value if hands like A8s and QJo make up enough of Villain's range.

Earlier, the preflop raise/4-bet is good.

So, overall, I think you played it fine.
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:44 AM
crovax4444 crovax4444 is offline
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Default Re: Pushing against a possible tilter

I would have checked the turn.

By not showing the river, I also meant to include showing the button calling. Don't put in information that you don't know at that point in time. If your questioning your turn play, show your push, and end the post there, otherwise people will be thinking "hey, he hit his flush and villain called, what he did was all good"

Crovax
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:46 AM
HenkvanderMast HenkvanderMast is offline
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Default Re: Pushing against a possible tilter

I'm almost never pushing preflop with AKs in a cashgame.
Thinking I'm behind to AA or KK if called.
That should be read dependant of course but I think that's kind of difficult to get on someone.

That's a big leak I think because I'm getting myself into bigger trouble on the flop most of the time.
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:48 AM
HenkvanderMast HenkvanderMast is offline
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Default Re: Pushing against a possible tilter

You're absolutely right. I should have customized the hand instead of just putting it in the hand converter and post it.
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: Pushing against a possible tilter

[ QUOTE ]
To above poster: What isolation raise? It was HU at that point

[/ QUOTE ]

Button just calls, this is a sign of weakness. He might fold to another raise.
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