$55: Flopped 2 pair, but straight is possible and have 2 callers

AA Suited · #1 01-25-2006, 01:07 AM

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UTG (t850)
UTG+1 (t1200)
MP1 (t1290)
CO (t3385)
Button (t930)
SB (t1035)
Hero (t1310)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t50, CO calls t50, Button folds, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: (t175) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets t90, MP1 calls t90, CO calls t90

Turn: (t445) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO bets t175, Hero?

No reads.

What would you have done on the flop and turn? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

jgunnip · #2 01-25-2006, 02:25 AM

Something screams check-raise all in. There is around t600 in the pot and you've only got about t1200 behind. I figure if I am beat already by a straight (what donk limps JT[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]) so be it, but I am going to make the draws pay. The ace could have given somebody a better two pair, but I don't think MP1 would check two-pair on this board here and I can't see AQ not raising the flop. A9/A8 don't seem that realistic either since calling a full pot bet on this flop cannot look pretty for that hand.

MP1 will fold 99% of the time (unless he is a donk on a draw) and CO's bet says he is weak and is trying to but the pot.

lowboy · #3 01-25-2006, 02:28 AM

Bet the flop a little harder. There's only an inside straight draw, but there's a flush draw as well.

On the turn, I'd be happy getting all my chips in.

mmbt0ne · #4 01-25-2006, 02:29 AM

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A9/A8 don't seem that realistic either since calling a full pot bet on this flop cannot look pretty for that hand.

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Hero bet half-pot on this flop, which I think is the problem. I'm thinking something more like 150 here, especially with the suited cards.

bigt439 · #5 01-25-2006, 02:43 AM

Pot the flop. Look to get it all in.

Pot the turn. Look to get it all in. Check raising is a viable option if you have reason to believe it'll get bet.

jeffraider · #6 01-25-2006, 03:02 AM

I bet about 125ish on the flop, and fire another 2/3 pot bet at the turn. Now that you've checked and he's done you the favour of putting some money in I'd just push.

tigerite · #7 01-25-2006, 08:28 AM

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Pot the flop. Look to get it all in.

Pot the turn. Look to get it all in. Check raising is a viable option if you have reason to believe it'll get bet.

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Exactly how I play it too.

yvesaint · #8 01-25-2006, 08:34 AM

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Pot the flop. Look to get it all in.

Pot the turn. Look to get it all in. Check raising is a viable option if you have reason to believe it'll get bet.

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AA Suited · #9 01-25-2006, 03:01 PM

i check raised all in. mp1 called. he had the jt and flopped the straight. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

1) why do you guys ignore the straight possibility?

2) if it was a monotone board, do you still play it the same way and ignore someone with a possible flush?

junkmail3 · #10 01-25-2006, 03:08 PM

You would be insane to checkraise all in on a
A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] board ... come on.

You'll fill up often enough when they have the straight to make it worth it.

(%)they don't have the straight + (%)they have the striaght((%)you fill up + (%)you don't) = good