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Old 08-27-2007, 10:14 PM
theForm42 theForm42 is offline
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Default What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

Do I need to shove this spot here on the flop? Or do I just check fold??? Hes 23/15/5 after 150 hands... no history no reads.

His range here has to be AK/QQ/AA right? I cant imagine any other hands he would call this 3 bet pf
FullTiltPoker Game #3384730962: Table Palamos (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:54:32 ET - 2007/08/27
Seat 1: Joefosho714 ($42.55)
Seat 2: betwitnothin ($119.05)
Seat 3: pokercriss ($114)
Seat 4: A-Donk ($100)
Seat 5: MAC 904 ($19.50)
Seat 6: sgrb30 ($16.50)
sgrb30 posts the small blind of $0.50
Joefosho714 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to betwitnothin [Ks Kc]
betwitnothin has 15 seconds left to act
betwitnothin raises to $3.50
pokercriss raises to $11
A-Donk folds
MAC 904 folds
sgrb30 folds
Joefosho714 calls $10
betwitnothin raises to $47
pokercriss calls $36
Joefosho714 calls $31.55, and is all in
*** FLOP *** [9s As 7d]
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

try and convert the hand.

ok so the pot is massive by the looks of things, you have less than a PSB, you have to shove. he should call with QQ, JJ here
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

check call.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:30 PM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

check it down and call anything, bet half pot on river
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

All I know is stop berating the damn fish and trying to teach them at the table. That was ridiculous yesterday and you damn well know it.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

i like the check call approach better now that i have thought about it. as long as we know we are calling
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:36 AM
theForm42 theForm42 is offline
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Default Re: What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

why is this a check call?? So I can get value out of QQ/JJ assuming they would fold to my shove? Arent I garuanteed getting stacked by AK or AA here either way?

Kind of feel like Id just ratehr get it in hope QQ or JJ calls
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

oh and to SirFelix I know your right about that, Im running like pure [censored] last two days and I get myself carried away sometimes.
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:34 PM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

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why is this a check call?? So I can get value out of QQ/JJ assuming they would fold to my shove? Arent I garuanteed getting stacked by AK or AA here either way?

Kind of feel like Id just ratehr get it in hope QQ or JJ calls

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but thats the whole point. if you shove QQ or JJ probably finds a fold a lot. no matter what you do, AA and AK get your stack. so might as well let a dummy with JJ try to bluff
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: What to do with KK after large 3bet PF, and ace flops

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check it down and call anything, bet half pot on river

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Seems like if you check here, then you also need to be checking w/ AK and AA. Otherwise, villain can steal the pot pretty easily.
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