should I fold this river in such a huge pot?

[JDalla]

PokerStars 30/60 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

River: (20.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, MP calls.

Final Pot: 26.50 BB

and anyone cap the turn? I think I just checkraise the river if the board doesn't pair...

[threeonefour]

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anyone cap the turn?

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i don't think anybody doesn't cap the turn. i would sell a kidney to have the money to cap the turn. i would steal money from my grandmother in order to cap the turn. i would sell my body to businessmen in thailand for the scratch to cap the turn. assuming the game was not table stakes and patient enough to accommodate me of course...

[PartyGirlUK]

Haha this is gonna be on today's CR video.

[JDalla]

lol... I don't like capping the turn here; it basically annouces your hand and smaller flushes or sets that don't fill up on the river are only paying you one bet. If I don't cap the turn and the river is safe, I can easily checkraise and get another 4 bets out of them, possibly more if they are really crazy.

Also this way I lose less if I don't win the pot... I'm sticking to not capping the turn until convinced other wise.

[threeonefour]

you think they are paying three bets on the river if the board doesn't pair and you don't cap? when a pot is 20BB once the turn closes, people start to get a thinking about their opponent's hands. even if they sneakily refused to cap the turn.

cap now while they are drawing! 4 bets now! worry about the river when you get there.

*hint in white* <font color="white"> you have the best hand </font>

[BigBadBabar]

wow, this better be some kind of a joke, because i'm on tilt just looking at it

[JDalla]

I'm still not convinced.... I put both on them on set or lower flush. They are aggressive players, and don't make big laydowns in big pots. Against one of them I won a $900 pot with a showdown and he had A9 hi (there were 4 players on the flop and the board wasn't very draw heavy...)

There is no way they will both check and/or fold cheap on the river.

Anyone out there agree??

[threeonefour]

-JDalla

you last post supports the capping the turn argument.

*advanced pro tip in white* <font color="white"> you want the pot size to be as large as possible. *advanced pro follow-up question* how might a player make the pot larger on the turn?</font>

[HOWMANY]

I'm sorry but this is just terrible. I didn't want to reply because I had no intention of giving any strategy advice but I'm sitting here stewing over how horribly this hand was played so I had to reply.

[JDalla]

ok I am convinced now... I guess I was trying to get too fancy. I still think it is possible to get more bets without capping here, but I guess it's not likely enough.

In the hand they had 66 and TT. Doesn't anyone think I should have folded the river?