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Old 09-25-2007, 11:03 PM
Daniel Magix Daniel Magix is offline
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Default AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls, Hero ???

PF: Pretty sure I got this right.
Flop: Bad flop to raise? I was pissed for allowing the 3bet in, but I'm not folding here for one more, right?
Turn: With the two other villians hanging on, ok call here? I'm pretty sure I am behind, but I thought I had some outs (possibly A,K,T, preferably non-spade?)
River: I can only see this Q putting me further behind any hands, but I'm getting 17-1 by the time it gets to me to close the action. My cursor hovers over FOLD for 5-6 seconds...
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

You might be good 1 time in 17 here. Call and throw up a little.

Reads would be nice...
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

I don't see a fold here. Pay him off.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

:g:

Well you just pulled ahead of KJ so getting 17:1 with TPTK... I call and hate my self. Against thinking players I can't see overcalling 2, I mean WTF?

[edit] flop raise is good btw. [/edit]
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:20 PM
Daniel Magix Daniel Magix is offline
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Default Re: AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

[ QUOTE ]
Reads would be nice...

[/ QUOTE ]

I know, they would be. I don't have PT, but I do try to keep pretty detailed player notes. This table, in relation to the other two I was playing tonight, was the most aggressive.

By the River, part of me felt like "aggressive or not - if I were up vs. 3 completely random hands, one of them would likely have me beat here". But as much as I felt I was beat, the 17-1 was pretty enticing.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

Understand that despite various rants about treating all levels of poker the same, there is a difference between the micro levels and you wouldn't have to move up too many levels before you could fold this river and be confident you will be seeing at least a straight and probably a full house. But at .02/.04 you can call this and actually win occasionally.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

Call all day.

Flop raise is okay. The pot's big, and you're in a terrible position to be protecting it. I'd say you have an equity edge, albeit probably slight, so pushing it now is fine.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

a. post reads
b. hand looks pretty standard until river, cuz: we are now ahead of KJ, but there are two overcallers? I'm not sure I really like this. I guess I call here and hate it. I really don't think we're that good, but i guess it could be KJ and two retards sometimes? ps reads are good here.
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Old 09-26-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

pain of losing 1 bet &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt; pain, tilt and misery associated with folding winning hand (that is, until we realise that pot basically doesnt buy a cheeseburger)

I make a sanity call and expect to lose basically everytime but once in a while I ROTFLMAO MHIG.
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Old 09-26-2007, 12:47 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: AKs flops TP, scary board, many villians

I'm not sure if I raise the flop here... KQJ with a flush draw isn't really that great of a flop with the large number of two pair combos and one card draws possible, especially after the donk and two calls. I might wait for a good turn to pop it if it's safe (and puke when 3-bet).
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