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08-21-2007, 11:38 PM
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Playing over and seat comes open
This happened to me last night when I was on the floor. A player that was first on the list for 1-3 NL was playing over another player while he was waiting for his seat to come open. He bought in $300 (table max) and ran in up to around $1000 real quick. A player left the game and he moves into the his seat because he was first on the list.
Now comes the tricky part. When your playing over and your seat comes open you are treated as a new player. Should he be allowed to bring his $1000 stack into his new seat or, as being treated as a new player, should he be forced to cash out $700 and re-buy in the the max $300. I've asked a couple other floormen and the poaker room manager and have received a different answer every time. I think that if hes treated as a new player he should only be allowed to buy in the $300.. Let the debate begin. 
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08-21-2007, 11:40 PM
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Re: Playing over and seat comes open
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Now comes the tricky part. When your playing over and your seat comes open you are treated as a new player. [/ QUOTE ] I'd say you just answered your own question.
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#3
08-21-2007, 11:46 PM
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Re: Playing over and seat comes open
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I'd say you just answered your own question. [/ QUOTE ] I feel like hes a new player and can only buy in $300. We have a couple floors that disagree. I'm looking for feedback to validate what I believe. RR are you out there?
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#4
08-21-2007, 11:48 PM
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Re: Playing over and seat comes open
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[ QUOTE ] I'd say you just answered your own question. [/ QUOTE ] I feel like hes a new player and can only buy in $300. We have a couple floors that disagree. I'm looking for feedback to validate what I believe. RR are you out there? [/ QUOTE ] It's going to be up to the individual poker room to decide what they want to do but your statement above about "playing over means you'll be treated as a new player" came from where? I assumed you quoted it from the casino. If not then it's out of context. edited to add: I would also assume that if your casino allows player to do this (play over) then they would have a rule for buyins. I've never seen this allowed in Los Angeles.
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08-21-2007, 11:54 PM
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Re: Playing over and seat comes open
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[ QUOTE ] I'd say you just answered your own question. [/ QUOTE ] I feel like hes a new player and can only buy in $300. We have a couple floors that disagree. I'm looking for feedback to validate what I believe. RR are you out there? [/ QUOTE ] I do not have a strong opinion either way on this. I am going to say the $1k should stay on the table in play. A strict interpretation of the rules would be that he has to cash it out, but I think this is a situation where the floor should rule contrary to the technical rules. One thing to remeber though is nobody will ever fault you for following the letter of the rule and there will be a lot of people ready to point out the rule when you rule contrary to the rule.
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#7
08-22-2007, 12:23 AM
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Re: Playing over and seat comes open
Look at it from the perspective of the players. Here's a guy who sits down, plays a few hands, and changes seats. From my perspective as the guy who just lost $500 and wants it to stay in play, it isn't logical to claim he's a new player. He's the same guy, playing in the same game, with no break. As a player at the table, I don't care what your rulebook says, it's wrong-headed to allow him, let alone force him, to take money off the table he's playing.
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#9
08-22-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: Playing over and seat comes open
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Thank you Randy. On a side note Dale Carden said to say hello. [/ QUOTE ] Send my reguards and if PJ still palys in your room tell him to empty his inbox, everytime I send him email it says his inbox is too full.
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#10
08-22-2007, 12:31 AM
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Re: Playing over and seat comes open
I agree with Bav.
If he stays at the same table then I think it would be better if he were treated as just having changed seats. From the other players' perspective it just looks too weird to do otherwise. If the open seat comes up on a different table then bring him back down to the max buy-in.
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