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Old 10-11-2007, 09:25 PM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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Default Worried about getting overcalled

Ok, villan in this hand is very bad. He bluffs too much, coldcalls 3 bets OOP with 86s, and crap like that. The guy who is calling between us the whole way is ok, but not great. When we were playing 3 handed at 3/6 before, he called my reraise in pos. with 74s and stacked off on 943 flop when he min raised my cbet, I shoved 88 and he called. So can I call the shove on the river, knowning sometimes ill lose to the crazy and sometimes ill beat him but get called by first guy?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($2246)
Button ($2208.50)
Hero ($1600.75)
BB ($2375)
UTG ($786.88)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $15, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45</font>, BB calls $45, UTG calls $45.

Turn: ($195) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, BB calls $150, UTG calls $150.

River: ($645) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG calls $571.88 (All-In).
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:56 PM
berserk berserk is offline
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Default Re: Worried about getting overcalled

Yes this looks like a call, BB isn't checking QJ or sets on the river obviously, so you're only worried about him overcalling KQ or AQ which make up a very small portion of his range imo.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:57 PM
JKratzer JKratzer is offline
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Default Re: Worried about getting overcalled

seems like an easy call given descriptions
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:07 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: Worried about getting overcalled

I'm in the shove camp, precisely to blow out KQ/AQ. BB won't be checking QJ or better here, unless he has very precise reads on UTG's play and knows that he'll spew at some point, either on an earlier street or especially on the river.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:30 AM
ogdundar ogdundar is offline
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Default Re: Worried about getting overcalled

I think you have to at least call, BB has more than one pair here like never. I don't think BB shows up with AQ either, maybe KQ, but I doubt he is overcalling with it. I like a shove to fold out these two hands, especially KQ, but I don't know if BB overcalls often enough in the first place to make it up for those times he is calling with 2pair+.

So call or shove.
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