*** OFFICIAL 9/30/07 NFL AFTERNOON GAME THREAD ***

[Performify]

This is the official thread for 9/30/07 NFL Afternoon Games.

These are games which start around 4pm EST (3p central, 2p mountain and 1p pacific).

The scheduled games are as follows:

(visitor @ home, start time EST, TV Network, DirecTV channel, Sirrius channel home / away)

PIT @ ARI 3:15 PM Tickets CBS 714 130 122
TB @ CAR 4:05 PM Tickets FOX 712 126 121
SEA @ SF 4:05 PM Tickets FOX 711 125 181
KC @ SD 4:15 PM Tickets CBS 715 119 110
DEN @ IND 4:15 PM Tickets CBS 713 114 123

[MyTurn2Raise]

spreads and totals as of a few minutes before this posting

[WaterOlay]

san fran/seattle under 40.5

also, i think its quite amusing/disturbing QoH's feelings towards AceAce on therx lmao [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[rsigley]

Kansas City +11.5 -110
Pitt -3 1H -110

[ensign_lee]

Tampa Bay Moneyline (+130)
2 units at BetTrojan

David Carr is starting today. And the Panthers are still favored? Wow. As a Texans fan, I was able to see just what Carr is capable of. Ever since that primetime game against Denver, he just hasn't been the same. Previously, he was averaging about 270 yds per game. Since then, an extremely underwhelming 170 yards per game.

If you watched him play last year, it would make you want to pull your hair out. He cowered, yes, COWERED in the pocket. His eyes immediately went to the rush. He was never able to read a defense worth anything; if you blitzed him, you owned his face. All he ever did was look for a double/triple covered Andre Johnson.

Now, some pundits may say that it was all the offensive line's fault. Right...the Texans haven't added any new starters on the o-line since last year and look at how Matt Schaub has done. I don't buy that Carr will be instantly revitalized behind center in Carolina.

Meanwhile, the Bucs have shown their mettle lately, blowing away competition that most thought they would lose to (yes. That includes me. hah). Even if they play like an average NFL team, I think they'll be able to take care of business here. This game should be pk with Carr under center, not CAR -3.

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I'm sucking, so take that for what it's worth. But yeah.

SageStats ensign_lee

[psuasskicker]

Looks to me like we should combine Sunday early and late afternoon game threads for next week...

- C -

[jafeather]

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Looks to me like we should combine Sunday early and late afternoon and night game threads for next week...

- C -

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[CrushinFelt]

I've glanced over the Wong-ing FAQ, but I think it mostly talks about crossing the field goal to touchdown area (8.5/2.5) type plays. What about the Kansas City game today? Was the analysis run on games with spreads that are higher than 8.5? Would going from 12pts to 18 pts be crossing a Wong threshold?

Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 4
(225) Kansas City Chiefs +18 Sun@4:15p
Competitor: (226) San Diego Chargers

(Teased 6.0 points)


Football - NFL Lines (Game) Total
NFL - WEEK 4
(225) Kansas City Chiefs vs. (226) San Diego Chargers Over 32½ Sun@4:15p

(Teased 6.0 points)


Football - NFL Lines (Game) Total
NFL - WEEK 4
(227) Denver Broncos vs. (228) Indianapolis Colts Over 40 Sun@4:15p

(Teased 6.0 points)


Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 4
(231) New England Patriots -1½ Mon@8:30p
Competitor: (232) Cincinnati Bengals

(Teased 6.0 points)

[React1oN]

What do you guys think of the Seattle v San Fran, and Carolina vs San Fran games?

Lines I see are -2 on Seattle and -3 on Carolina.

[MacGuyV]

You couldn't pay me enough to bet a TB-Carolina game and that goes for pretty much any season. The Panthers are traditionally an awful home favorite though.