Call w/ 2nd boat?

[LOwrestling2001]

NO reads on villain. I made then turn bet slightly small considering that it was going in on the river. I realize now that if I had made the turn bet bigger then it woudln't be as much of a questino on this river, but is villain doing this with an 8 enough to call this? Thanks

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($33.85)
MP ($45.20)
CO ($55.30)
Hero ($49.25)
SB ($21.15)
BB ($48.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, SB calls $2.25, BB calls $2, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, SB folds, BB calls $8.

Turn: ($32) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17</font>, BB calls $17.

River: ($66) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $18.1 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $18.10.

Final Pot: $102.20

[Nick C]

I call the river out of spite. The other justification is that you have no read. Also, there is some chance Villain has clubs or JT and is bluffing.

Meanwhile, an 8 is pretty damn unlikely unless Villain is the type to bet bottom pair on an ace-high flop into a PFR and two other players and then, after improving to trips on the turn, simply check-call.

In short, you played the hand well and then the river screwed you. But there is always the hope that Villain is trying a desperation river bluff into someone who has already clearly represented a big ace [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

Edit: Anyway, a spite call isn't really that expensive, since Villain will have played some worse hand like a moron on occasion, and you are getting 5:1. But if Villain had much more to bet, then this is one of those hands where the best play really would be to fold in disgust.

[LOwrestling2001]

oh ok yea that's what i thought, i immediately regretted not betting more on the turn (but villain was drawing pretty thin) so that the spite call would be even easier.