AA facing donk bet 220 BB deep, 3 to the flop (NL50)

[CalledDownLight]

I'd like to do this street by street since I think I could have played every street postflop differently.

Probably the most interesting hand I played today. We are all three deep and I've been pretty aggro from steal positions. They have been calling some and mostly c/f flops. I haven't seen this player donk a flop yet. No idea if its mid pair, set, top pair, draw, or complete air. I have no hands on either player in my DB.

If you raise the flop how would you respond to a 3bet from the guy that donked? the other guy? Also, how much would you make it?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($33.60)
Hero ($110.30)
SB ($83.90)
BB ($110.90)
UTG ($55.85)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($237.20)
MP2 ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, Hero ???

I'll post the next street later. I think I butchered the flop because I couldn't make up my mind quickly at all.

[SABR42]

I would make it $9 to go.

If he 3-bets it depends on how much he raises on top, but probably fold.

[Mr_Donktastic]

I like raising the flop.

[chopsticks]

Raise to $8-$10 on the flop. It's the only right move here so it could have been better to post the flop action entirely. It's impossible to say what to do next when we don't know what happened and possible options are so many.

[CalledDownLight]

Ok, like I said I think I [censored] up the flop. I did raise, but its clearly too small. Now I get a CC and the donkbettor folds. Effective stacks are only 170 BB deep now so its not as bad either. Turn card is pretty interesting imo.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($33.60)
Hero ($110.30)
SB ($83.90)
BB ($110.90)
UTG ($55.85)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($237.20)
MP2 ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls $7, BB folds.

Turn: ($22) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ???

If I bet here then how much should I make it and what would you do facing a c/r of a little less than pot size?

[Johnes Benjamin]

This may be too nitty but I like checking behind here. I feel like he has flush draw pretty often the way he played flop.
If I bet it it would probably be like 17, and I think I would have to call a c/r of slightly less than pot given nut draw.

edit: well, not exactly the nut draw if he has 45d

[Mr_Donktastic]

IDK man. With a normal stack I would just bet/call but since you are deep checking might be better.

[chopsticks]

Youre right, you bet too little on the flop. Imo $8 is the absolute minimum with those stacks, I would reraise to $10 on the flop.

I would bet $20 on the turn and push against his 3-bet. Tons of folding equity and your small raise on the flop makes your hand look like AdQd or AdJd and if he calls with a set or made flush you still have outs. Calling his 3-bet isn't wrong either but you wont get the pot without a diamond river and if the river is a diamond you wont get much action from his possible Qd and especially not from a set so theres no implied odds to make a call.

EDIT: 4-bet pushing turn is highly dependant on your reads how easily villain will fold certain types of hands in certain situations. Also, you have to be a tightish player to make your hand look like nuts if you push there.

And if you bet little on the turn as you did on the flop, calling his smallish c/r is way better than shoving.

[holdem2000]

The amount of your flop raise is standardish for me, but I know I'm in a minority for 2+2er's that keep it that small.

At .25/.50nl I run into enough KJ/KQ/AK hands that I definitely want to bet the turn, figuring on getting action from him at the very least if his kicker is a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Even versus a set we've got plenty of outs.

I bet $15, and push over most raises. A minraise or something close to it I guess I just call and see what happens on the river.

[grouchie]

Based on stack sizes, I like a check behind on this turn.
You really don't want to call a big check raise, and you really don't want to have to fold right now either.

Pot control it and just check.