6.5T: Interesting AK hand

[Wolfram]

My friend played this hand and we were discussing it after the fact. I think it's obvious that we need to fold after the re-raise, but I'm wondering about what the best line is before that.

What do you think about the c-bet? Do we need to raise more on the flop? Isn't a bigger raise committing our stack to much?

I think a fold/limp pf is bad. And I think the pf raise amount is correct because of all the limpers. I'm just wondering if we need to go all-in because there's plenty of dead money in the middle, we really don't have that many chips to play post-flop with, we're out of position and AK is a hand that likes to see 5 cards.

Sorry about HH, converter is acting up.

PokerStars Game #4675206524: Tournament #23343008, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em
No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/04/19 - 10:08:28 (ET)
Table '23343008 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: zg12 (1540 in chips)
Seat 3: freckert457 (1280 in chips)
Seat 4: gfoslo (1505 in chips)
Seat 5: johnny329 (3870 in chips)
Seat 6: ns70 (1340 in chips)
Seat 7: buffalo321 (1505 in chips)
Seat 8: Hasbeen36 (1000 in chips)
Seat 9: Takeda Jin (1460 in chips)
Takeda Jin: posts small blind 25
zg12: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Takeda Jin [Kh As]
freckert457: calls 50
gfoslo: calls 50
johnny329: calls 50
ns70: folds
buffalo321: folds
Hasbeen36: calls 50
Takeda Jin: raises 250 to 300
zg12: folds
freckert457: folds
gfoslo: folds
johnny329: calls 250
Hasbeen36: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 4h 3s]
Takeda Jin: bets 300
johnny329: raises 3270 to 3570 and is all-in
Takeda Jin: ???

[bluefeet]

Pushing PF can't be wrong. t275 is a nice addition to this stack. 50/100 can't be a few hands away.

[QuentinCompson]

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Pushing PF can't be wrong. t275 is a nice addition to this stack. 50/100 can't be a few hands away.

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AK OOP is a great spot to overpush preflop

[fatmanonguitar]

Nice points. This is one of those hands where it seemed unnecessary to push PF until you saw the flop action.

In retrospect, I think pushing PF is the best option from deductive reasoning:

- limp/folding is bad therefore we must raise
- if we raise and get called we are OOP and a standard C/B would cost roughly 1/3 of our remaining stack
- we miss the flop 2/3 of the time and get full equity from AK seeing all five cards if called
- we maximize our FE PF by pushing and don't mind picking up 250 chips uncontested with A-high

- therefore we must push PF despite having almost 30BB!

[QuentinCompson]

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Nice points. This is one of those hands where it seemed unnecessary to push PF until you saw the flop action.

In retrospect, I think pushing PF is the best option from deductive reasoning:

- limp/folding is bad therefore we must raise
- if we raise and get called we are OOP and a standard C/B would cost roughly 1/3 of our remaining stack
- we miss the flop 2/3 of the time and get full equity from AK seeing all five cards if called
- we maximize our FE PF by pushing and don't mind picking up 250 chips uncontested with A-high
- we get called by donks "slowplaying" AQ and AJ every now and then

- therefore we must push PF despite having almost 30BB!

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[fatmanonguitar]

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Nice points. This is one of those hands where it seemed unnecessary to push PF until you saw the flop action.

In retrospect, I think pushing PF is the best option from deductive reasoning:

- limp/folding is bad therefore we must raise
- if we raise and get called we are OOP and a standard C/B would cost roughly 1/3 of our remaining stack
- we miss the flop 2/3 of the time and get full equity from AK seeing all five cards if called
- we maximize our FE PF by pushing and don't mind picking up 250 chips uncontested with A-high
- we get called by donks "slowplaying" AQ and AJ every now and then

- therefore we must push PF despite having almost 30BB!

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Nice addition! Unfortunately we also get called by donks overplaying small pairs every now and then but at least we'll have some overlay when we're flipping for our life.