25NL - 9To hits a gutshot

bober2 · #1 08-31-2007, 03:20 AM

How should this be bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($38.65)
SB ($15.25)
BB ($31.50)
UTG ($4)
Hero ($25.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB raises to $1, BB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($4) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25, Button folds, SB folds.

River: ($8.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero raises to $22, BB calls $18.

Final Pot: $52.50

Lego05 · #2 08-31-2007, 03:26 AM

Why are you open-limping....that's pretty bad.

I'd fold turn.

River's good I guess although there is a pretty decent chance he's got a full house.

Ze_Gnome · #3 08-31-2007, 04:56 AM

Maybe....... Fold preflop....... fold turn too nooo ????
Sorry but I call that a fishy hit.

Lego05 · #4 08-31-2007, 04:59 AM

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Maybe....... Fold preflop....... fold turn too nooo ????
Sorry but I call that a fishy hit.

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What you are saying is slightly unclear and a bit hard to understand.

Ze_Gnome · #5 08-31-2007, 05:07 AM

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Maybe....... Fold preflop....... fold turn too nooo ????
Sorry but I call that a fishy hit.

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What you are saying is slightly unclear and a bit hard to understand.

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I'm saying T9o is a fold pf especially in early position; and the worst way to play it is open-limping with it.
And a gutshot is sometimes a raise, very rarely a call, and many times a fold.

Lego05 · #6 08-31-2007, 05:57 AM

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Maybe....... Fold preflop....... fold turn too nooo ????
Sorry but I call that a fishy hit.

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What you are saying is slightly unclear and a bit hard to understand.

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I'm saying T9o is a fold pf especially in early position; and the worst way to play it is open-limping with it.
And a gutshot is sometimes a raise, very rarely a call, and many times a fold.

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Ok agreed then. Except I'll sometimes raise T9o on the button as a steal.

Seikeau · #7 08-31-2007, 06:11 AM

Okay, you are in the cutoff with 9To, why would you ever want to limp here? To hit a straight(draw) in an unraised pot wich is not likely going to be big? Then SB raises and you call. If you are willing to play a raised pot with this garbage, then raise it yourself! Add some fold equity!

On the flop you hit nothing, everyone checks around and the turns brings you a gutshot. Someone bets 1/2 pot and you call, with 4 outs to a straight while there could be a fullhouse out there already. Do you really think this is a profitable play?

River play is okay I think because your call on the turn suggests you don't think anyone has a fullhouse and you have to get paid off obv.

munkey · #8 08-31-2007, 06:24 AM

Don't open limp preflop -OOP mediocre drawing hand, IP mulitway fine to limp along. If you raised then fine.

I fold turn too gutshot on paired flush draw flop -6outs max and no FE as we called.

As played you hit so shove if he's calling 18 hel call an AI, if he has a boat then you should have folded earlier.

you beat Kt-, AK/AA QJ in his liekly calling an AI shove.
BB checked the flop and gets raise happy -> river so I think AK/boat/AA is quite likely.

ShipitFMA · #9 08-31-2007, 09:24 AM

This is so bad, DONT OPEN LIMP EVER, calling that turn raise is absolute spew. fold this [censored] preflop, oh and i seriously think you should drop down in levels and work out leaks in your game

gcaash · #10 08-31-2007, 10:11 AM

fold PF , as played fold turn