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08-02-2007, 08:25 PM
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blind battle on monotone flop
villain is a mediocre TAG
I have a note on him that he donked TP into the pfr if that helps Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $5/$10 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) yourface is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, yourface calls. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">yourface raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">yourface caps</font>, SB calls. Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">yourface raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, yourface calls. River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (11.5BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, yourface calls. Results: Final pot: 13.5BB thoughts? 
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#4
08-02-2007, 10:00 PM
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Re: blind battle on monotone flop
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I capped the flop to make it seem like I was making some kind of dumb free card play/semibluff does it look like that to anyone else? [/ QUOTE ] That certainly wouldn't be my first thought. I think I call the turn and decide later if I wanna pull the trigger on a good river card.
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#5
08-02-2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: blind battle on monotone flop
my reasoning was that a mediocre TAG would expect me to call his 3bet and pop the turn with a strong hand
what is your reasoning for waiting until the river? there are going to be a ton of cards I won't like
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#6
08-02-2007, 10:28 PM
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Re: blind battle on monotone flop
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my reasoning was that a mediocre TAG would expect me to call his 3bet and pop the turn with a strong hand what is your reasoning for waiting until the river? there are going to be a ton of cards I won't like [/ QUOTE ] can't think like a mediocre tag because i am a terrible lag. Shoulda emphasized that I would only be raising the river a small fraction of the time based on timing tell or whatever. If you are 100% positive that you can fold to a 3-bet then sure, go ahead and raise the turn. It's just that I usually don't play against people who would make me comfortable folding to a 3bet here.
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#7
08-03-2007, 02:28 AM
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Re: blind battle on monotone flop
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I capped the flop to make it seem like I was making some kind of dumb free card play/semibluff does it look like that to anyone else? [/ QUOTE ] I wouldnt think that atall unless i thought you were a total idiot, somebody who caps this flop usualy has some kind of made hand. FWIW i think its close on the turn bewteen calling or folding, i think against most tags id prefer a call but as it played out id have folded the turn to his 3bet maybe thats a bit weak but i think its one of those situations where your either just infront or way behind think about it what could a tag be 3 betting you with on this turn that you have badly beaten ? and if you were ahead on the turn your beaten on that river for sure
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#8
08-03-2007, 02:31 AM
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Re: blind battle on monotone flop
oh and FWIW i think if he's the kinda player who would 3bet as a bluff or with something like top pair/trips with a big club kicker then id like to call and see the river but most tags dont fit that description
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#9
08-03-2007, 08:54 AM
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Re: blind battle on monotone flop
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FWIW i think its close on the turn bewteen calling or folding [/ QUOTE ] I think you're being results oriented here to say that it could be a fold. the pot is big and villain can have all sorts of overpair, overpair+fd, pair+fd, trips, maybe even strong combo draw. I should have cut off the action after my turn raise, but I wanted to hear opinions on the river as well.
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