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Old 07-19-2005, 04:09 PM
Sparks Sparks is offline
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Poker Room Tip Calculator:

All dollars are pre-tax. All employees assumed to work full time, with benefits.

D = annual salary you think a dealer should make
S = annual salary you think a food server should make
C = annual salary you think a cocktail server should make
V = annual salary you think a valet should make
P = annual salary you think a porter should make.
F = annual salary you think a floorman should make



Dealers: (D – 14,000)/46,800 per won hand.
Notes: Round up to nearest dollar. Tip every hand you win regardless of size, including when you split the pot with someone else. Don’t tip when you “chop the blinds.” Add $1 for exceptional service, your favorite dealer, etc.


Food Servers: (S – 14,000)/8,840 per delivery.
Notes: Round up to nearest dollar. Fruit plates, desserts and other items less than $7 in value, subtract $1. Special orders, very large dinners, add $1.


Cocktail Servers: (C – 14,000)/21,216 per drink.
Notes: Round up to nearest dollar. Tip more for interpersonal reasons, as required.

Valets: (V – 12000)/12,376 upon return of your car
Notes: Round up to nearest dollar. Add $2 for “keep it close” request. Tip up to $10 for exotic cars, both upon arrival and departure.

Porters: (P- 12000)/10,608 per service.
Notes: Round up to nearest dollar. Typical services include bringing coffee, bottled water, clearing table or general cleanup upon your request.


Floormen: 2% of your winnings
Notes: Round up to nearest $5. $400 winning night minimum, $40 maximum toke for middle limit and below games. Not applicable to higher limit games.

Sparks
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:21 PM
TheMetetron TheMetetron is offline
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Default Re: Poker Room Tip Calculator

Floor isn't getting 2% of my winnings... and you have me way undertipping the dealer based on what I think they should make.
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:45 PM
stinkypete stinkypete is offline
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Floor isn't getting 2% of my winnings... and you have me way undertipping the dealer based on what I think they should make.

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tipping a dollar on every pot is way undertipping?
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:06 PM
Derek in NYC Derek in NYC is offline
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you have me way undertipping the dealer based on what I think they should make.

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tipping a dollar on every pot is way undertipping?

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25 hands/hour X 8 hours X 260 work days = $52,000

30 hands/hour X 8 hours X 260 work days = $62,400

Average median household income, Nevada, 2001-2003: $46,118

CONCLUSIONS: (1) Dealers deserve $1/pot; (2) dealers have the ability, by dealing faster and keeping the action moving, to substantially increase their wages.
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:36 AM
nightlyraver nightlyraver is offline
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Based on this I shouldn't tip at all. Dealers get paid, they do not make all their money on tips. No one who does a completely mindless job should be making 52 grand ON TOP of their salary. Dealers give almost nothing back to society - really anyone can be trained in like 3 hours to do that job. And it's also one of the easiest f&cking jobs on earth. I now feel better about being miserly with my tipping when it comes to dealers...
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:36 AM
The_Tracker The_Tracker is offline
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Based on this I shouldn't tip at all. Dealers get paid, they do not make all their money on tips. No one who does a completely mindless job should be making 52 grand ON TOP of their salary. Dealers give almost nothing back to society - really anyone can be trained in like 3 hours to do that job. And it's also one of the easiest f&cking jobs on earth. I now feel better about being miserly with my tipping when it comes to dealers...

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Good dont tip you piece of trash. NOBODY gives a [censored] if you are going to tip or not.

While you are at it, stiff the cocktail waitress, stiff the valet (like you would valet), stiff the servers at the buffet (because they didn't bring you any food, just drinks) because everyone in life owes you everything for free.

Dumbasses like you are simply bitter that you make 8 bucks an hour at the local Wal-mart. Guess what, its not a dealers fault you have no education or skills.

Christ. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 07-20-2005, 08:03 AM
Freerollin` Freerollin` is offline
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Default Re: Poker Room Tip Calculator

Ya know...

I'm glad that I'm not the only person who gets angry at people who think that they're too good to tip a dealer, the dealer doesn't deserve a tip, etc.

What's the matter with you people? Dealers have been getting tipped in casinos for quite a while now. What makes you so special that you can change this? Stick to the internet, cheapskate.

Somebody said this a couple days ago, and I forget who it was, so forgive me for failing to properly cite it:

RUNAWAY BUSES SEEK OUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU

-Tripp
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:12 PM
Chipr777 Chipr777 is offline
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really anyone can be trained in like 3 hours to do that job. And it's also one of the easiest f&cking jobs on earth. I now feel better about being miserly with my tipping when it comes to dealers...

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Clueless. I'll give you 3 months, 8 hours a day, and you couldn't pass an audition.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:57 PM
meep_42 meep_42 is offline
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Default Re: Poker Room Tip Calculator

I thought dealers didn't deal for their whole 8 hour shift. Maybe i'm wrong?

-d
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:02 PM
toddw217 toddw217 is offline
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Default Re: Poker Room Tip Calculator

It is an interesting exercise taking place here.

If the $52k number is even close to right - that's a pretty generous pay rate! The thing is, people of all professions tend to think that no-one can really appreciate what they have to put up with and that they are underappreciated and underpaid.

If that's what the job pays, good for you dealers. But I know many people with college degrees that work jobs requiring advanced knowledge and skills that don't sniff $50k.

Life is not always fair, but should a dealer make more than say a call center rep (we have a lot of those here in Tampa)? I'd say by all rights no - I think those jobs are $25k-$35k.

But like I said before - good for you dealers if you're making $50k. I'll tip my $1 a pot and call it good.
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