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#1
05-19-2007, 08:46 PM
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Should 2+2 endorse PPA?
It seems like it's time to endorse our allies in the fight, especially as they now have 500,000 members (including many of us).
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05-19-2007, 11:13 PM
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Re: Should 2+2 endorse PPA?
Anyone care to share the reasons for their vote?
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05-20-2007, 04:48 AM
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Re: Should 2+2 endorse PPA?
I think everyone would agree that each area of the poker community should walk in the same direction and compliment one another.
However, I do not agree that this site should have given its blind approval to an organization with transparency issues. So I support this sites originally issued opinion, and I am grateful for its investigatory efforts. That does not mean that I would not like to see this site express its support, I simply prefer that the endorsement come in good conscience for the greater good of our mutual efforts. I truely believe our common goals were better served and will continue to be better served under a watchful and well informed base, and that this sites investigation should be a benchmark to be followed in the future.
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05-20-2007, 12:27 PM
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Re: Should 2+2 endorse PPA?
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I do not agree that this site should have given its blind approval to an organization with transparency issues. [/ QUOTE ] True, the site should have done due dilligence. A full investigation may have been overkill, but that's the site's decision. Too bad they couldn't have put 5% of that effort into rallying members against HR 4411. I can't say for sure that we could have stopped but, but it certainly would have been better than nothing. After all, this legislation is hurting book sales. Seems it would have been good for the site. [ QUOTE ] That does not mean that I would not like to see this site express its support, I simply prefer that the endorsement come in good conscience for the greater good of our mutual efforts. [/ QUOTE ] Sure, the PPA had some growing pains typical of any start up. The investigation was what it was, but this is here and now. It seems the PPA is now a 500,000 person organization with a nationally recognized chair (D'Amato) and is out actively working for our interests.
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05-20-2007, 01:10 PM
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Re: Should 2+2 endorse PPA?
I generally agree, but 2+2 made their stance with legitimate concerns.
I think before we push for 2+2 to work with PPA, we need to push for the PPA: -better communication with its members. (their forums are dead and we get emails maybe once a month?) -to be more proactive with its members. Rarely do I see the PPA organizing its members to do anything.
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#8
05-20-2007, 01:16 PM
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Re: Should 2+2 endorse PPA?
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True, the site should have done due dilligence. [/ QUOTE ] Are you talking about THIS site? I can't find Mason's due diligence post, but here are a few others: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...8413&page= http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...1295&page=
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#9
05-20-2007, 01:17 PM
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Re: Should 2+2 endorse PPA?
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I think everyone would agree that each area of the poker community should walk in the same direction and compliment one another. [/ QUOTE ] Um, no, not as a blanket statement.
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05-20-2007, 03:03 PM
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Re: Should 2+2 endorse PPA?
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I generally agree, but 2+2 made their stance with legitimate concerns. I think before we push for 2+2 to work with PPA, we need to push for the PPA: -better communication with its members. (their forums are dead and we get emails maybe once a month?) -to be more proactive with its members. Rarely do I see the PPA organizing its members to do anything. [/ QUOTE ] These sound like things we should be helping them do, rather than expecting to have done for us.
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