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Old 05-14-2007, 08:05 AM
skegvegaspoker skegvegaspoker is offline
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Default 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<u>Hero (SB): $911.30</u>
BB: $648.96
UTG: $398.00
<u>CO: $244.00</u>
BTN: $542.90

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villain is 35/16/2.7/250 with WTSD of 30%.
No other previous history.</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $16.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $56.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $40.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($116) (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $60.00</font>, CO calls $60.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($236) (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets all-in for $128.00</font>, Hero ???


Is this a call given the odds and nature of opponent?
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:15 AM
FionnMac FionnMac is offline
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Default Re: 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

As played, call but ffs bet more on the flop
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

Push flop.
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

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Push flop.

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$188 into $116? Really?

Was trying to make flop/turn an easy call for villain with weaker holdings by making each bet 1/2 pot. Problem comes when turn is a scare card (about 1/2 the deck I guess).
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

"Problem comes when turn is a scare card (about 1/2 the deck I guess). "

Exactly, on this board you def wanna bet more on the flop.
As played, I'm never folding on the turn btw.
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

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$188 into $116? Really?

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Yes.
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Old 05-14-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

Agreed this is +EV, but you think this is optimal here?
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

$92 on flop is my standard even into this stack. you're bet sizing is way too small tho for sure
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:01 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

I like a flop shove also. Your line is okish on a dryer board. Snapcall turn as played.
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: 400nl - QQ as an overpair, dangerous board

I'm just curious what hand range you guys put him on that makes this a snap call on the turn. We need to win about 35% of the time to break even, if we are behind we are like 7-13% to win or so. So he needs to be running some bluff here really often, I'm assuming a bluff that has outs since he called the flop. Is a fold totally out of the question? I'd feel I was behind at least 50% of the time here even against someone with those stats.
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