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Old 06-19-2006, 08:23 PM
BHokie1 BHokie1 is offline
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Default 6.50s - BvB... str8/flush draw on flop - call?

PF raise Ok?

Villian - probably raising with an Ace PF...
Edit - I just double thru this guy the hand before QQ(me)vs 1010.

A lot of outs - but do you make this - call - in good position here.

If it was checked to you - what would be your move?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 with t25 antes (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1005)
CO (t1845)
Button (t2930)
SB (t3880)
Hero (t3840)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t100, <font color="red">Hero raises to t500</font>, SB calls t300

Flop: (t1325) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t3355 (All-in)</font>, Hero ????
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Old 06-19-2006, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: 6.50s - BvB... str8/flush draw on flop - call?

i dont think i can justify making this call. the problem is seeing the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] so [censored] often here, but hands like OESD and TP might make it more toward a call. regardless, i still like folding. if checked to id usually bet. the reason is that when i make a hand with draws like this its usually very obvious and i may not get paid a lot which makes taking a free card less profitable. i like trying to put him off his hand on the flop, and obviously id still have many outs if he check/called.
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: 6.50s - BvB... str8/flush draw on flop - call?

online w/no reads I fold this very sadly - though it might be close

w/reads I might call - if you can rule out the ace of spades calling isn't so bad

OR - if he has the ace of spades and no pair calling isn't so bad - but again...w/no reads probably sadly muck it

if checked to insta=push
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:39 PM
EscapePlan9 EscapePlan9 is offline
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Default Re: 6.50s - BvB... str8/flush draw on flop - call?

I think he'd more than likely raise an Ace from the SB there. I think he has a pair of something or an OESD. Or perhaps a lower flush draw. Maybe some combination of them. I really don't think he'll push with complete garbage here since the flop is extremely coordinated and likely to hit a variety of hands.

With all that said... I wouldn't want to call as the 40/60 dog or whatever. I really think you're currently behind here and need to hit your outs - and you don't even know which ones are clean right now.
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Old 06-20-2006, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: 6.50s - BvB... str8/flush draw on flop - call?

maybe call if you had As. i would fold here.
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Old 06-20-2006, 02:23 AM
King Car King Car is offline
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Default Re: 6.50s - BvB... str8/flush draw on flop - call?

This one would be highly read dependent.

Given the size of the pot and my outs (assuming my outs are clean)hero might reluctantly call this one from time to time. At the 6.50s villains would push this flop with Ad8d.
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Old 06-20-2006, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: 6.50s - BvB... str8/flush draw on flop - call?

Im folding this, and calling AsTx.
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:08 AM
JoseRijo JoseRijo is offline
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Default Re: 6.50s - BvB... str8/flush draw on flop - call?

My first reaction was fold, thinking I was way behind to As-x. But it's only 56-43 against As-9h!
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