TPTK heavy action on turn.

TheGoon · #1 09-24-2007, 05:37 AM

Onlt been at table a few orbits and have no read on villains.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, MP calls, 3 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, MP caps, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, MP calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, MP raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.........

mattnxtc · #2 09-24-2007, 08:22 AM

This is a tough hand. BB has shown extreme strength the entire hand. I hate folding this, but it needs to be considered especially when it looks like MP will probably be capping

BryanC · #3 09-24-2007, 08:36 AM

I think we have to fold the BB probably has aces or kings and with the MP still behind us its gonna cost us alot to get to the showdown

Gurravasa · #4 09-24-2007, 08:37 AM

I would fold since you must be ready to put in several bets on turn and river with toppair against two players to take this to SD. If you don't know theese guys are maniacs you must expect AA and KK often here. You have invested 3,5BB so far and at this point and you'll probably have to put more than that in the pot on turn and river to see a SD. I don't think it's worth it.

Wolfram · #5 09-24-2007, 09:04 AM

MP's preflop line is totally lol, but I think you need to fold on the flop. When BB donks you're getting squeezed a huge % of the time and then you'll be faced with putting in 2-4 small bets on the flop with a very dirty 6-outer.

As played I think you can safely fold to the turn 3-bet. TPTK is not winning this often enough to make calling down all those bets worthwile.

jba · #6 09-24-2007, 10:41 AM

yeah I fold the flop. turn is a clear fold when it's two back to you.

Hi5 · #7 09-25-2007, 12:09 AM

Hmm... I would have raised the turn here and folded to a 3-bet.

midnightpulp · #8 09-25-2007, 01:48 AM

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yeah I fold the flop. turn is a clear fold when it's two back to you.

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#9 09-25-2007, 02:10 AM

What if hero raises the flop? It could get MP to fold.. And if BB 3-bet there you could fold too? Is this ok?

Gurravasa · #10 09-25-2007, 05:22 AM

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What if hero raises the flop? It could get MP to fold.. And if BB 3-bet there you could fold too? Is this ok?

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No it's awful. Why would you want to waste money like that?