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Old 04-10-2007, 07:22 AM
bdog33 bdog33 is offline
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Default UTG QQ, call river bet?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1415)
UTG+1 (t1685)
MP1 (t2165)
CO (t1495)
Button (t3330)
SB (t1350)
BB (t2060)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t90, SB calls t75, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t300) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t60</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t240</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t180

Turn: (t780) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t780) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t510</font>

Should i have bet the turn?Why? is the river a call or easy fold?
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:50 AM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: UTG QQ, call river bet?

I raise to t100 preflop, and t320 on the flop. I like the turn check.

Gotta fold this river IMO.. you did show weakness on the turn, but villains calling range on the flop consists of

medium pocket pairs
Tx hands
hands containing two club

You can pray he has the first one of those, but I think that will be the one very rarely. Maybe &lt;5% of the time it's a pure float on the flop (or 56s), and a bluff on the river. That's very optimistic though.

Look at villains flop bet. Bets like theese always come from bad players, and they are very often draws in my experience. It could have been 56s, but it was way more likely to be a club draw. Villain calling your raise is perfectly consistant with such a hand. Also, villain is probably too retarded to realize how bad the board is for his flush. I have seen fish value bet flushes on double paired boards a lot of times.

Villains line is also consitant with a weak ten, like T7, T8, T9, or TJ and TQ. He bets the flop very carefully to "find out where he is at", and then when you tell him, he won't listen because he is a fish and has top pair. A lot of bad players play the turn exactly like villain did when they have a ten, and the river is a value bet begging for a call.

Your only hope is 56s, but that would be very optimistic.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:13 AM
TEKEE TEKEE is offline
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Default Re: UTG QQ, call river bet?

i would have raised to at least 150 PF.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: UTG QQ, call river bet?

I fold here. The only hand in his range you beat is mid pair, and I don't think he has that enough/value bets that enough for a call to be good.
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