100nl: Semi-bluff paired turn?

crunny · #1 06-29-2007, 11:27 PM

Villain is an unknown

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saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($101.35)
UTG+1 ($58)
MP1 ($29)
MP2 ($62.65)
CO ($61.15)
Hero ($107.45)
SB ($34.25)
BB ($70.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($12) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

 Checking behind because i cant stand a raise

Turn: ($12) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to 22????

bottomset · #2 06-29-2007, 11:42 PM

wait you can't stand a raise on the flop

but you want to shove the turn when the board pairs with Thigh?

crunny · #3 06-30-2007, 12:03 AM

I dont really get your above post.

Basically i don't think he can call without a Q.

On the flop i can get raised by air, draws, J's and Q's.

Klompy · #4 06-30-2007, 12:11 AM

I bet this flop almost always. I'm not a big fan of the turn raise either.

bottomset · #5 06-30-2007, 12:18 AM

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Basically i don't think he can call without a Q.

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lol he will though

Erudito · #6 06-30-2007, 12:46 AM

Looks like a donkey move to me. What are trying to represent here?

Johnes Benjamin · #7 06-30-2007, 03:05 AM

This move against a 35BB stack who already committed 5 preflop is not advisable.
I'd c-bet flop. If he c/r you allin you are way behind anyway and getting moved off your hand isn't the end of the world.

22pajo · #8 06-30-2007, 03:10 AM

i'd just go ahead and c-bet this flop
the turn stinks of fps and without a read on villain i wouldn't bother.
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silver book · #9 06-30-2007, 05:29 AM

Would anyone open push this flop? I do this sometimes when the player is a little shorter. I know it looks fishy, but Im not 100% sure that a shortstack is able to see that. I also do the same thing when I flop top pair or better at times. The reason for the push is to keep the shortstack from checkraising me all in with air or a draw or even a little pocket pair ( which im coinflipping against)

CalledDownLight · #10 06-30-2007, 01:54 PM

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Basically i don't think he can call without a Q.

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lol he will though

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and he should as you have air here like always. Just cbet the flop or call here. Fold isnt awful either.