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Old 05-06-2007, 12:02 PM
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Default Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

Villian is 25/8/2 over 400 hands.
what amount to bet do you think is right on the river?
Shove or make a small bet around $40-$50?
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:11 PM
Ron Burgundy Ron Burgundy is offline
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Default Re: Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

Push
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

I'd push. He will have a hard time folding an ace.
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

Well, if the pot's $150 and you've only got $140 behind you should probably put it in. Anyone with an ace is definitely calling here and with the board pairing a lot more biggish pocket pairs are likely to call you as well.

Ship the chips.
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Old 05-06-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

I think cbetting that flop after 2 players checked it's kinda bad, but anyway..push river.
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Old 05-06-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

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I think cbetting that flop after 2 players checked it's kinda bad, but anyway..push river.

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ok..but i read SS2 NL part and Doyle thought u should bet out 90% of the time..thats why im betting out. Im open for other strategies to and i know his bok is old. When is it correct to Continuebet ?

Sorry if my english is bad.. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Anyway, i Pushed all in, and villian fold. The shortstack had a busted low flushdraw. Villian had probably a flushdraw tdraw or maybe AQ.
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Old 05-07-2007, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

I see nothing wrong with C-betting this hand, with a flush draw on board, neither villain is likely to give a free card if they hold an ace. Checking allows each villain a chance to steal it on turn if they are holding a small pair or draw if J doesn't fall for hero.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

I cebt this flop 100%. Villains are calling your raises with PP's and SC's more than AX. Yeah, if anyone calls/checkraises you're done with the hand unless the miracle comes on the turn but you'll take it on the flop way more than 50% of the time.

Just push river, if villain has a decent ace he's calling you and hoping to win the kicker war. If he has a busted FD he's not calling you anyway. And occaisionally he'll show up with a worse FH (or better). No reason to overthink this and leave money on the table.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

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I think cbetting that flop after 2 players checked it's kinda bad, but anyway..push river.

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ok..but i read SS2 NL part and Doyle thought u should bet out 90% of the time..thats why im betting out. Im open for other strategies to and i know his bok is old. When is it correct to Continuebet ?

Sorry if my english is bad.. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Anyway, i Pushed all in, and villian fold. The shortstack had a busted low flushdraw. Villian had probably a flushdraw tdraw or maybe AQ.

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You're not getting any more money with a small bet either. Villain doesn't have AQ. If he did, he's calling here. nh.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Deepstacked NL$100, Full house on river, small or big bet ?

I think the question here is would he check an ace? If you push, a strong ace most likely calls, a weak ace may or may not call, and a busted draw definitely folds. I don't think a pp calls and I don't think an unimproved pp would still be in this hand at this point. If you check, you might induce a bluff from a busted draw or you might not (there is an all-in player for the majority of the pot). But if he bets A-rag and you raise (assuming he doesn't push), he will definitely feel pot committed now, whereas he might fold to an all in lead bet. The question is if he would bet A-x if you checked. If so, checking might be the best play. I think autopushing here without considering checking is a mistake.
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