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Old 11-10-2007, 10:42 PM
CaptVimes CaptVimes is offline
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Default NL25 AK From MP Flop Decsision

UTG 36/21 and is a retard, UTG+1 10/7 Set miner, CO is 28/4 and I haven't seen him do much, but he does cold call the flop some.


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BB ($14.50)
UTG ($22.80)
UTG+1 ($29.15)
Hero ($24.90)
MP2 ($25.80)
MP3 ($10.55)
CO ($27.40)
Button ($43.10)
SB ($33)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.75, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $4.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($10.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)
Hero?
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK From MP Flop Decsision

Options are either turn your hand into a bluff and b/f flop, or c/f flop (which seems awful). B/f seems slightly better to me as he could be here with AQ/AK/TT/QQ and fold. JJ obv isn't folding, and I don't think KK/AA are going anywhere. I think you can bet like...6 here and look like you're trying to get value. If he raises, fold. If he calls, you might get a free look at the river and catch an A. Ugh, it all seems bad though. lol
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK From MP Flop Decsision

EDIT: Misread the action. I think Chargers below is right with the c/f
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: NL25 AK From MP Flop Decsision

c/f.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: NL25 AK From MP Flop Decsision

If we're c/fing flop, then are we just reraising preflop to push out CO/UTG? What range are we putting villain on after he calls the flop? Given that range, is there any flop we're not c/fing?
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:12 AM
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People at the $25 who cold call here have ranges of JJ+ usually and sometimes 22+ and those aren't going to fold here. If you want to bet, you have to double barrel. I don't think double barreling is very smart here.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:13 AM
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lol Rapid. Your post doesn't make sense. Get some good bed rest. We weren't reraising preflop to push CO out of the hand because CO wasn't in the hand when we reraised. And as to the range we put Villain on when he calls the flop, we never really get to that stage, because we're not betting the flop.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:20 AM
RapidEvolution RapidEvolution is offline
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Default Re: NL25 AK From MP Flop Decsision

*blink blink* You're right, cheese. Let's try again with coherence this time.

My first question made no sense as we had no idea CO was cold-calling. LOL@me. The second question should've been "What range do we put CO on after he calls the preflop 3bet? Chargers, thanks for answering. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I hadn't considered the need for double-barrelling. It seems odd, but I guess if villain is going to call all this preflop action, then they're probably not going away after the flop.

Now I'll get some rest. lol
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:44 AM
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ck fold.
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:29 AM
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I donīt like the PF raise. Itīs way to big plus you have to cbet any flop now. Call PF, cbet big postflop.
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