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Old 08-28-2007, 09:36 AM
Womble Womble is offline
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Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $660.80
BB: $203.00
UTG: $196.80
MP: $420.04
CO: $167.00
BTN: $219.00

Preflop: BTN is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img](6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $25.00</font>, BTN calls $18.00

Flop: ($51) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $28.00</font>, BTN calls $28.00

Turn: ($107) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $85.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $166.00</font>, BB calls all-in for $65.00
Uncalled bet of $16.00 returned to BTN

River: ($407) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $407.00 ($3 Rake)


What range do you put BB on. He seems Taggish on the tight side. Other then 4bet PF which I sometimes do - how do you play postflop
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AKo steal

Usually I play it just as you did. Then I get shown KK, QQ, KQ or a made flush on the turn. Getting overly aggro here is a pretty big leak.

You should probably fold the turn. What do you think you beat?

See my post in BBV for reasons why it's not a good idea to go apeshit on this flop just b/c you have top pair + nut flush draw.
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AKo steal

I play it the same. I probably fold if turn wasn't a heart (I'll split at best). But with 8 or 9 new outs, You have to go allin.

HR looks QQ+, AK, SC hearts, maybe KQs...
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AKo steal

Didn't you notice he is giving himself the river odds to hunt his flush on the flop?

Very lucky river for you!
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AKo steal

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Usually I play it just as you did. Then I get shown KK, QQ, KQ or a made flush on the turn. Getting overly aggro here is a pretty big leak.

You should probably fold the turn. What do you think you beat?

See my post in BBV for reasons why it's not a good idea to go apeshit on this flop just b/c you have top pair + nut flush draw.

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Having read your other posts you're laughably weak-tight. What could he have that we beat? Another AK, a draw, air -- folding this hand on the turn in an aggressive game is a losing play.

OP, 75% of the time I 4 bet PF, the rest of the time I play it exactly the same.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AKo steal

I prefer a 4-bet pre but calling is fine as well, postflop is fine.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: nl200 AKo steal

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Having read your other posts you're laughably weak-tight. What could he have that we beat? Another AK, a draw, air -- folding this hand on the turn in an aggressive game is a losing play.

OP, 75% of the time I 4 bet PF, the rest of the time I play it exactly the same.

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OK, what hand is he potting the turn with when the flush card comes?

Also, weak tight? Hardly. I dropped like $800 last night making similar plays. See bbv. Maybe my terrible session is influencing my responses today.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:29 AM
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I dropped like $800 last night making similar plays.

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you can drop 4 buy-ins playing weak tight.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:34 AM
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I dropped like $800 last night making similar plays.

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you can drop 4 buy-ins playing weak tight.

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LOL at me playing weak tight. I just try to be cautious in spots where it's very possible that I'm beat.

Also, a lot of players at these stakes who are "tight aggressive" are actually hyper aggro donks.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:38 AM
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am I the only one that just calls the turn?
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